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Turntable with Phantom
#1
Is it possible to connect a turntable to the Phantom? How?

Any feedback on the sound quality?
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#2
If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en
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(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

Pro-Ject even sells a turntable with optical output:
http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...es&lang=en

Rega also makes one, sold under the Flexon brand:
http://www.flexson.com/vinylplay-turntab...ut-uk-only
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#4
Devialet have in their store in Paris un phantom hook to the Project audio Essensial 2 digital and say great things about it


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(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.
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(29-Oct-2015, 21:38)nigelb001 Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.

Thank you for checking. This is a deal breaker indeed. Maybe there is a new product in the works? The A/D Phonobox S went into the archive section of the website. Could not find however a new, dedicated ADC by Pro-Ject that would offer optical out.

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(30-Oct-2015, 00:58)seb Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 21:38)nigelb001 Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.

Thank you for checking. This is a deal breaker indeed. Maybe there is a new product in the works? The A/D Phonobox S went into the archive section of the website. Could not find however a new, dedicated ADC by Pro-Ject that would offer optical out.
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(29-Oct-2015, 21:38)nigelb001 Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.

Could this be because the digital section of the box runs off the 5V on the USB bus from the computer?
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(30-Oct-2015, 10:04)ogs Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 21:38)nigelb001 Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.

Could this be because the digital section of the box runs off the 5V on the USB bus from the computer?

Hmm, no idea. But if this is the case, what a dumb way of doing it. 'I know let's replace 50p worth of regulator parts with a £600 computer.'

After ditching the idea of this particular phono stage, I use a £12 A/D converter from fleabay with my existing Cambridge 540P with good results.
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(30-Oct-2015, 10:04)ogs Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 21:38)nigelb001 Wrote:
(29-Oct-2015, 17:05)f1eng Wrote: If you use a phono stage with an optical digital output that could be connected.
I haven't tried such a stage but Project make one

http://www.project-audio.com/main.php?pr...xs&lang=en

From the manual for the above phono stage:

"Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF

Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output."

Seems a but silly to have to connect a computer for the optical output to work. I was thinking to get one of these but that is a deal-breaker for me.

Could this be because the digital section of the box runs off the 5V on the USB bus from the computer?
I don't think so. I checked the manual and it describes the process of connecting your PC to the device (quote see below). So I guess a computer is necessary.

Connection to the amplifier over S/PDIF
Use optical cable for digital connection to your amplifier. A computer has to be connected with A/D Phono Box S and turned on to activate S/PDIF output.
Following settings have to be done in Computer to achieve desired behaviour (example for Windows 7 and Windows 8):
Open Control panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Sound and open tab Recording.
Choose "USB Audio CODEC" and click on Properties. Open tab Listen check the checkbox Listen to this device and choose "Speakers (USB Audio CODEC)" as a playback device. 
 

Innuos Zen Mini MK3 -> (Ethernet / Audioquest Optical) -> Dialog & 2x White Phantom
Pro-Ject Carbon Debut Esprit Turntable with Ortofon Red -> (Cinch/RCA) Musical Fidelity Merlin -> (AudioQuest Optical) to Phantom
Master & Dynamics MH40, Audeze Sine, AudioQuest Dragonfly Red; Remote Control via macOS and iOS devices (Devialet App / Innuos Sense /iPeng / Audirvāna Studio)
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