Here's a video I just shot demonstrating the noise reduction capabilities of the Delta NR power cable:
Amazingly when the Delta NR is plugged into a spare socket (and with no device connected to it) the noise measured on the other socket falls dramatically!
Guillaume
(02-Nov-2017, 13:52)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a video I just shot demonstrating the noise reduction capabilities of the Delta NR power cable:
Amazingly when the Delta NR is plugged into a spare socket (and with no device connected to it) the noise measured on the other socket falls dramatically!
Guillaume
That is impressive. I’ve seen Caelin do a similar demonstration on the Shunyata website.
If you try the same experiment with the standard Delta EF, is there any drop in noise?
I know you don’t like talking money on the DC site, so could you possibly PM me with price differences between EF and NR?
I’d like to audition the Shunyata cables, and Trevor from Guildford Audio wants me to try some Crystal cables.
Alex.
(02-Nov-2017, 16:11)Axel Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 13:52)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a video I just shot demonstrating the noise reduction capabilities of the Delta NR power cable:
Amazingly when the Delta NR is plugged into a spare socket (and with no device connected to it) the noise measured on the other socket falls dramatically!
Guillaume
That is impressive. I’ve seen Caelin do a similar demonstration on the Shunyata website.
If you try the same experiment with the standard Delta EF, is there any drop in noise?
I know you don’t like talking money on the DC site, so could you possibly PM me with price differences between EF and NR?
Alex.
Hi Alex,
There is no drop in noise with the EF cables, it's basically the Noise Reduction (NR) module in the IEC which is doing this. It's amazing how the NR cables are pretty much power conditioners in themselves!
I'll PM you.
Cheers
Guillaume
(02-Nov-2017, 16:16)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 16:11)Axel Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 13:52)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a video I just shot demonstrating the noise reduction capabilities of the Delta NR power cable:
Amazingly when the Delta NR is plugged into a spare socket (and with no device connected to it) the noise measured on the other socket falls dramatically!
Guillaume
That is impressive. I’ve seen Caelin do a similar demonstration on the Shunyata website.
If you try the same experiment with the standard Delta EF, is there any drop in noise?
I know you don’t like talking money on the DC site, so could you possibly PM me with price differences between EF and NR?
Alex.
Hi Alex,
There is no drop in noise with the EF cables, it's basically the Noise Reduction (NR) module in the IEC which is doing this. It's amazing how the NR cables are pretty much power conditioners in themselves!
I'll PM you.
Cheers
Guillaume
Do Shunyata sell the power connector/noise filter on its own? If so, I could plug it into a spare socket and still get the noise cancelling effect.
As you are a certified distributor and have the ear of Caelin, could you suggest this to him and convey his reaction to this proposal, please?
(03-Nov-2017, 03:54)Axel Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 16:16)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 16:11)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]That is impressive. I’ve seen Caelin do a similar demonstration on the Shunyata website.
If you try the same experiment with the standard Delta EF, is there any drop in noise?
I know you don’t like talking money on the DC site, so could you possibly PM me with price differences between EF and NR?
Alex.
Hi Alex,
There is no drop in noise with the EF cables, it's basically the Noise Reduction (NR) module in the IEC which is doing this. It's amazing how the NR cables are pretty much power conditioners in themselves!
I'll PM you.
Cheers
Guillaume
Do Shunyata sell the power connector/noise filter on its own? If so, I could plug it into a spare socket and still get the noise cancelling effect.
As you are a certified distributor and have the ear of Caelin, could you suggest this to him and convey his reaction to this proposal, please?
Actually this already exists, just not in UK spec. It's called the Venom Defender:
http://shunyata.com/products/power-distr...-defender/
I use a couple of NEMA 240V versions with my US sockets. I'll ask Caelin about a UK version, and far as I know there aren't any plans to offer one.
Guillaume
Hi Guillaume:
Since you have the Entech device, can you do one more test for us? Can you plug-in the device in Denali while Devialet is hooked up to Denali with Delta EF in the same zone? With CCI filters in Denali, we would expect significant noise reduction even if EF chord is used with Denali.
Cheers..
(03-Nov-2017, 14:11)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ] (03-Nov-2017, 03:54)Axel Wrote: [ -> ] (02-Nov-2017, 16:16)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Alex,
There is no drop in noise with the EF cables, it's basically the Noise Reduction (NR) module in the IEC which is doing this. It's amazing how the NR cables are pretty much power conditioners in themselves!
I'll PM you.
Cheers
Guillaume
Do Shunyata sell the power connector/noise filter on its own? If so, I could plug it into a spare socket and still get the noise cancelling effect.
As you are a certified distributor and have the ear of Caelin, could you suggest this to him and convey his reaction to this proposal, please?
Actually this already exists, just not in UK spec. It's called the Venom Defender:
http://shunyata.com/products/power-distr...-defender/
I use a couple of NEMA 240V versions with my US sockets. I'll ask Caelin about a UK version, and far as I know there aren't any plans to offer one.
Guillaume
I wonder why they don’t do a U.K. version? IMHO, they are missing a trick here as there would surely be a market for it. If Caelin (or you) could do a demonstration with the Venom Defender, in a similar vein to the demo he does with power cables, and the price was around the £200 mark, I think he’d be on to a winner.
(03-Nov-2017, 19:12)Axel Wrote: [ -> ] (03-Nov-2017, 14:11)GuillaumeB Wrote: [ -> ] (03-Nov-2017, 03:54)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]Do Shunyata sell the power connector/noise filter on its own? If so, I could plug it into a spare socket and still get the noise cancelling effect.
As you are a certified distributor and have the ear of Caelin, could you suggest this to him and convey his reaction to this proposal, please?
Actually this already exists, just not in UK spec. It's called the Venom Defender:
http://shunyata.com/products/power-distr...-defender/
I use a couple of NEMA 240V versions with my US sockets. I'll ask Caelin about a UK version, and far as I know there aren't any plans to offer one.
Guillaume
I wonder why they don’t do a U.K. version? IMHO, they are missing a trick here as there would surely be a market for it. If Caelin (or you) could do a demonstration with the Venom Defender, in a similar vein to the demo he does with power cables, and the price was around the £200 mark, I think he’d be on to a winner.
Hi Axel we are only really starting out in the UK market and there are still many products that haven't been ported to UK specs yet. So far we have all of the power cords and the UK6 power distributor (and obviously all the signal cables). The next stage is to bring the Denali to the UK and this is currently undergoing testing for certs... it's crazy how much time this takes. This unit has been ready to go for several months now.
I agree it would be great to have a UK Defender, however I understand there are a number of issues surrounding the design of such a unit due to the nature of the UK plug, then we have the small matter of certs.
As the UK market develops I am sure we will be able to look at more products. I'm all for this as you can probably imagine!
With that said I don't know of any other cable manufacturer that has put quite as much effort into developing a UK plug, I understand this took over 2.5 years to develop. Most other companies are using Furutech connectors to terminate their "high end" UK power cables.
Guillaume
(03-Nov-2017, 17:54)sam1000 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Guillaume:
Since you have the Entech device, can you do one more test for us? Can you plug-in the device in Denali while Devialet is hooked up to Denali with Delta EF in the same zone? With CCI filters in Denali, we would expect significant noise reduction even if EF chord is used with Denali.
Cheers..
Hi Sam, the Entech doesn't give you an absolute value in terms of measuring noise (for this you need a spectrum analyser). It is more useful for relative measurements, for e.g. comparing two sockets or seeing what happens if i add a cable/device to a spare outlet. At the end of the day it is a gizmo, albeit quite a useful one.
I don't have a Denali here as it is out on loan however when I get it back I'd be happy to run some experiments.
Cheers
Guillaume
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Shunyata are working on an RCA to AES/EBU digital cable especially for use with Devialet. You can audition both and use the one that you prefer.
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Any news on Shunyata's RCA to AES cable for Devialet?