(31-Jan-2019, 06:07)Damon Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 00:03)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ]I would suggest going up a notch—get the Shunyata Delta EF. Makes Z3 sound thin in comparison.
Not just a notch, but a wallop. $300.00 vs $1800.00. Personally, I start with the AQ Z3 cord. A power cord that costs 20% of the amp is a hard pill to swallow. If, however, you are looking in that price range, there are many other cable companies that make excellent cables, and which may suit your system and ears for much less. Consider Wywires, for example. Or Analysis Plus.
But I repeat my own endorsement, and echo that of others, RE the AQ Z3 cable: try it. And I say that after having trialed a Shunyata EF cable at home in my own system.... yes, really.
The Delta EF is around $500. Excellent deal and synergy with the Expert Pro.
(31-Jan-2019, 06:59)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ]The Delta EF is around $500. Excellent deal and synergy with the Expert Pro.
Must have been a different Shunyata EF cord I had.
(31-Jan-2019, 14:38)Johnnydev Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 06:07)Damon Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 00:03)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ]I would suggest going up a notch—get the Shunyata Delta EF. Makes Z3 sound thin in comparison.
Not just a notch, but a wallop. $300.00 vs $1800.00. Personally, I start with the AQ Z3 cord. A power cord that costs 20% of the amp is a hard pill to swallow. If, however, you are looking in that price range, there are many other cable companies that make excellent cables, and which may suit your system and ears for much less. Consider Wywires, for example. Or Analysis Plus.
But I repeat my own endorsement, and echo that of others, RE the AQ Z3 cable: try it. And I say that after having trialed a Shunyata EF cable at home in my own system.... yes, really.
The audioquest Z3 is really a no brainer, also on the devialet phantoms and even on liniar power supply's, LPS.
Just try it
Tried it and found it underwhelming once exposed to other cables in that price range. Synergistic Research even has the Red/Black/Blue series in the sub-$500 Range. The Lending Library at thecableco.com will allow you to try a variety of cables. It’s not that it’s a bad cable; I just don’t see the cost/performance benefits when a $99 Shunyata Venom 14 can keep pace with the Z3 (both 14 gauge funny enough). Btw, Synergistic will make a lower-profile IEC connector available on request for their entry-level lines.
(31-Jan-2019, 21:37)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 14:38)Johnnydev Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 06:07)Damon Wrote: [ -> ]Not just a notch, but a wallop. $300.00 vs $1800.00. Personally, I start with the AQ Z3 cord. A power cord that costs 20% of the amp is a hard pill to swallow. If, however, you are looking in that price range, there are many other cable companies that make excellent cables, and which may suit your system and ears for much less. Consider Wywires, for example. Or Analysis Plus.
But I repeat my own endorsement, and echo that of others, RE the AQ Z3 cable: try it. And I say that after having trialed a Shunyata EF cable at home in my own system.... yes, really.
The audioquest Z3 is really a no brainer, also on the devialet phantoms and even on liniar power supply's, LPS.
Just try it
Tried it and found it underwhelming once exposed to other cables in that price range. Synergistic Research even has the Red/Black/Blue series in the sub-$500 Range. The Lending Library at thecableco.com will allow you to try a variety of cables. It’s not that it’s a bad cable; I just don’t see the cost/performance benefits when a $99 Shunyata Venom 14 can keep pace with the Z3 (both 14 gauge funny enough). Btw, Synergistic will make a lower-profile IEC connector available on request for their entry-level lines.
Never did listen to the Z3 to the Shunyata Delta EF and suspect it is a great cable but there is no way the Venom is in the same league, IMHO. Had a few in the past.
Delta EF is a very good upgrade over stock NRG cable that came with Devialet. I agree that Venom is not in the same league to use with Devialet. Venoms are good for source/transports though.
(01-Feb-2019, 21:06)sam1000 Wrote: [ -> ]Delta EF is a very good upgrade over stock NRG cable that came with Devialet. I agree that Venom is not in the same league to use with Devialet. Venoms are good for source/transports though.
I agree, I'm using Delta EF's into my D1000 Pro (couldn't have the Delta NR's as the Dev covers wouldn't fit) and Venom into Innuos Zenith, they are a real improvement over stock cables, I tried various NRG cables but none came close.
Also beware of counterfeit AQ cables, I know of folks who got their burned on Ebay, it is VERY hard to tell the difference.
(31-Jan-2019, 06:59)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 06:07)Damon Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 00:03)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ]I would suggest going up a notch—get the Shunyata Delta EF. Makes Z3 sound thin in comparison.
Not just a notch, but a wallop. $300.00 vs $1800.00. Personally, I start with the AQ Z3 cord. A power cord that costs 20% of the amp is a hard pill to swallow. If, however, you are looking in that price range, there are many other cable companies that make excellent cables, and which may suit your system and ears for much less. Consider Wywires, for example. Or Analysis Plus.
But I repeat my own endorsement, and echo that of others, RE the AQ Z3 cable: try it. And I say that after having trialed a Shunyata EF cable at home in my own system.... yes, really.
The Delta EF is around $500. Excellent deal and synergy with the Expert Pro.
The Delta EF is £760 in the UK, the NRG Z3 is £179. For dual mono users, that's £1520 versus £358. So at UK prices, definitely more of a wallop than a notch I would say.
Also, a quick check online indicates that the US version of the Delta EF is $700, which looks about right.
I was chatting to someone a while ago who reckoned the Delta EF is exceptional with the Devialet, so maybe it is worth it. I have not tried either, so cannot comment personally regards SQ.
(09-Feb-2019, 12:31)Confused Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 06:59)awkaplan Wrote: [ -> ] (31-Jan-2019, 06:07)Damon Wrote: [ -> ]Not just a notch, but a wallop. $300.00 vs $1800.00. Personally, I start with the AQ Z3 cord. A power cord that costs 20% of the amp is a hard pill to swallow. If, however, you are looking in that price range, there are many other cable companies that make excellent cables, and which may suit your system and ears for much less. Consider Wywires, for example. Or Analysis Plus.
But I repeat my own endorsement, and echo that of others, RE the AQ Z3 cable: try it. And I say that after having trialed a Shunyata EF cable at home in my own system.... yes, really.
The Delta EF is around $500. Excellent deal and synergy with the Expert Pro.
The Delta EF is £760 in the UK, the NRG Z3 is £179. For dual mono users, that's £1520 versus £358. So at UK prices, definitely more of a wallop than a notch I would say. Also, a quick check online indicates that the US version of the Delta EF is $700, which looks about right.
I was chatting to someone a while ago who reckoned the Delta EF is exceptional with the Devialet, so maybe it is worth it. I have not tried either, so cannot comment personally regards SQ.
Yes, my apologies for not being more sensitive to international pricing. Somewhat telling, though.
I was offered the AQ Monsoon for the price of the 3m NRG-Z3, because the store can't ship my order due to backorder from AQ.
The Monsoon (out of the "Wind" Series) seems to be lesser known (maybe oder line-up?) but seems to be quite thick and nicely terminated by non-bulky, maybe even Devialet-under-the-lit-safe, plugs.
Does anybody have experience with these cords?