(21-Sep-2016, 23:39)booshtukka Wrote: What is the "mp3 player"? Is it a computer? Going straight to a digital output instead of via analogue has got to be a better route?

(21-Sep-2016, 16:50)JordanKim Wrote: Yes, you're right! But I want to use my player, it's more comfortable and handy..


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(21-Sep-2016, 23:39)booshtukka Wrote: What is the "mp3 player"? Is it a computer? Going straight to a digital output instead of via analogue has got to be a better route?

(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote:

(21-Sep-2016, 16:53)intouch1 Wrote: in all honesty, don't bother.....phantoms don't have enough imaging or staging

Have you experienced this in your own system?

(22-Sep-2016, 08:58)intouch1 Wrote:

(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote:

(21-Sep-2016, 16:53)intouch1 Wrote: in all honesty, don't bother.....phantoms don't have enough imaging or staging

Have you experienced this in your own system?

I have indeed. with an Astell&Kern 120 II and Hirez material up to DSD.....and as mentioned by me somewhere else the Phantoms IMO opinion are mid-fi at best.

Don't get me wrong, it is a great product for what it is....I have 2 pairs that I got to use on a boat. But high-end sounding, they are certainly not.
Let alone for the reason of compression when played louder....i.e. the bass loosing a lot of bottom end for the sake of being loud.
The midrange is far from what I call a sweet midrange. Not to compare to larger setups, but just to say compare to focal Diablo Utopia.

For clarification, both my pairs are Silvers. but I doubt the gold to be much better simply for the change of some processing and tweeter material.

Keep in mind that Wilson Audio uses a silk dome tweeter after having used titanium for years.

Hope this makes sense.

(22-Sep-2016, 09:42)ogs Wrote:

(22-Sep-2016, 08:58)intouch1 Wrote:

(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote: Have you experienced this in your own system?

I have indeed. with an Astell&Kern 120 II and Hirez material up to DSD.....and as mentioned by me somewhere else the Phantoms IMO opinion are mid-fi at best.

Don't get me wrong, it is a great product for what it is....I have 2 pairs that I got to use on a boat. But high-end sounding, they are certainly not.
Let alone for the reason of compression when played louder....i.e. the bass loosing a lot of bottom end for the sake of being loud.
The midrange is far from what I call a sweet midrange. Not to compare to larger setups, but just to say compare to focal Diablo Utopia.

For clarification, both my pairs are Silvers. but I doubt the gold to be much better simply for the change of some processing and tweeter material.

Keep in mind that Wilson Audio uses a silk dome tweeter after having used titanium for years.

Hope this makes sense.

While I agree that the Phantom could have a much better midrange presentation, the Whites I tested did reasonably well on imaging. After I made a RC filter for them I had very nice staging too. I rarely play louder than 85 dB SPL so I can not comment on compression and loosing bass. Phantoms need proper placement and stands. Judging by the image you've uploaded placing Phantoms on their packaging is not the best.

(22-Sep-2016, 09:58)intouch1 Wrote: when listening I make sure the setup is as best as could be.