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RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - Antoine - 21-Oct-2014
Yes, I understood but I don't think you'll get the same quality using the Stello as you would get with a Devialet native solution. I also personally would never use an interconnect that long, even being it a relatively robust AES/EBU one as I suspect the data+clock signal would deteriorate even though the standard allows up to 100m lengths. But of course this is only me and my audiophile 'convictions'.
It might just work and if you just want to get rid of the white noise issue and don't care much about the solution being -fully- optimal you could of course try.
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - ogs - 21-Oct-2014
(21-Oct-2014, 04:57)Antoine Wrote: The Stello U3 is merely a USB-SPDIF converter for DAC's that don't have a USB input. I have no experience with this device but I think the Devialet provides a much higher quality USB solution.
I used a Stello U3 with my D-Premier before upgrading to 250. The U3 sounds very nice indeed. It uses an XMOS device so it is similar to the USB input of the Devialet amps. The main difference is of course that Devialet's USB input has the XMOS chip within the amp instead of being connected via cable to AES/EBU.
(21-Oct-2014, 11:24)drdkey Wrote: I actually was looking at it from the perspective of having the AES/XLR connection due to the distance of my server to Devialet being about 25 ft apart on 2 separate floors
Even if the XLR connection is balanced and *should* handle long runs I think Antoines suggestion with fiber optic and USB extender is the preferred way to solve this. I am a little uncertain about the USB3 port requirement on the host though. Maybe it will not work properly if you only have USB2 ports on the Mini. I'd double check this with Adnaco.
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - GuillaumeB - 21-Oct-2014
drdkey and canyelles have you voted in the Air survey? Actually if anyone else on here uses AIR and is currently experiencing dropouts and/or white noise then please vote at:
http://devialetchat.com/Thread-AIR-user-survey
The more who respond the less easy it is for Deviate to ignore the problem.
If you don't experience these issues then please vote too so that our sample can be at least representative.
I must say I am dismayed to hear that there are problems with white noise on OS X too. Ethernet should be ideal for wiring a Mac Mini to the network and people shouldn't have to incur great expense or time finding alternative solutions.
Guillaume
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - Jwg1749 - 21-Oct-2014
(21-Oct-2014, 13:01)GuillaumeB Wrote: drdkey and canyelles have you voted in the Air survey? Actually if anyone else on here uses AIR and is currently experiencing dropouts and/or white noise then please vote at:
http://devialetchat.com/Thread-AIR-user-survey
The more who respond the less easy it is for Deviate to ignore the problem.
Guillaume,
I like your new name for the company. Not inappropriate in this context!
Matt
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - GuillaumeB - 21-Oct-2014
(21-Oct-2014, 17:12)Jwg1749 Wrote:(21-Oct-2014, 13:01)GuillaumeB Wrote: drdkey and canyelles have you voted in the Air survey? Actually if anyone else on here uses AIR and is currently experiencing dropouts and/or white noise then please vote at:
http://devialetchat.com/Thread-AIR-user-survey
The more who respond the less easy it is for Deviate to ignore the problem.
Guillaume,
I like your new name for the company. Not inappropriate in this context!
Matt
That's hilarious!
I blame it on Yosemite!Guillaume
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - ErikM - 21-Oct-2014
I answered you over on computer audio before I came here and say your question again. I'd try it wireless see what happens.. is the Mind app Really that bad??
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - drdkey - 22-Oct-2014
(21-Oct-2014, 22:14)ErikM Wrote: I answered you over on computer audio before I came here and say your question again. I'd try it wireless see what happens.. is the Mind app Really that bad??
Yes
It is very clunky, slow to respond. Using iTunes with Air ethernet and Apple remote is like having the responsiveness of a Ferrari whereas the Mind responds like an Edsel.
To be fair though, the streamer is fantastic!! Simaudio said over a year ago that they were going to come out with a player and so I have remained hopeful but they never delivered.
(22-Oct-2014, 00:08)drdkey Wrote:(21-Oct-2014, 22:14)ErikM Wrote: I answered you over on computer audio before I came here and say your question again. I'd try it wireless see what happens.. is the Mind app Really that bad??
Yes
It is very clunky, slow to respond. Using iTunes with Air ethernet and Apple remote is like having the responsiveness of a Ferrari whereas the Mind responds like an Edsel.
To be fair though, the streamer is fantastic!! Simaudio said over a year ago that they were going to come out with a player and so I have remained hopeful but they never delivered.
To clarify, the iPad app is slow and clunky to respond, not the streamer which is a great product.
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - ogs - 22-Oct-2014
(21-Oct-2014, 13:01)GuillaumeB Wrote: I must say I am dismayed to hear that there are problems with white noise on OS X too.
Guillaume
I completely agree with you Guillaume. As this is now also a problem on OS X, maybe Devialet would make an effort to fix it. So far the problem has only existed for PC users and I feel Devialet has been ignoring it.
If one takes the email from Devialet re. the incompatibility AIR/Yosemite as a sign they will act quickly when OS X is involved.
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - canyelles - 22-Oct-2014
(22-Oct-2014, 09:12)ogs Wrote:(21-Oct-2014, 13:01)GuillaumeB Wrote: I must say I am dismayed to hear that there are problems with white noise on OS X too.
Guillaume
I completely agree with you Guillaume. As this is now also a problem on OS X, maybe Devialet would make an effort to fix it. So far the problem has only existed for PC users and I feel Devialet has been ignoring it.
If one takes the email from Devialet re. the incompatibility AIR/Yosemite as a sign they will act quickly when OS X is involved.
Sorry but I don't see it this way at all.
That email re AIR/Yosemite was sent out on the day of Yosemite release but BEFORE it was actually released.
Therefore they had had a beta copy of Yosemite for some time, knew it did not work, and left it to the last possible moment to let us know.
I presume they thought they would be able to fix it in time but were not able to do so.
And they still have not fixed it.
RE: Ethernet white noise/static with Mac mini - ogs - 22-Oct-2014
(22-Oct-2014, 11:02)canyelles Wrote: Sorry but I don't see it this way at all.Thanks for clearing up this canyelles. I am not a OS X user so I have not tested myself. I've read that Devialet has a lot of programmers employed. Not much help when they can not fix things like this quickly.
That email re AIR/Yosemite was sent out on the day of Yosemite release but BEFORE it was actually released.
Therefore they had had a beta copy of Yosemite for some time, knew it did not work, and left it to the last possible moment to let us know.
I presume they thought they would be able to fix it in time but were not able to do so.
And they still have not fixed it.