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RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - JohnnySix - 17-Jul-2015 The most intriguing comparison for me is against the Ensemble system, as instead of going with two Phantoms, I could have bought the Atohm GT1's to go with my D120. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - Dvlt PhD - 18-Jul-2015 (17-Jul-2015, 07:55)Confused Wrote: Based on my visit to the Oxford Audio Phantom event this week, I have some observations that might be of interest to anyone debating whether or not to spend the extra few pounds (Euros / dollars or whatever) on the Silver. Previous posts here suggest that the white and silvers sound much the same, and with respect to ultimate sound pressure levels the whites are all you need. I guess there is some logic here and for many people this will more or less hold true. Thanks, Confused Quoting the bold above, can you expand a little on "struggle slightly", please? On another note, open to everyone who wants to share their experience: I'm almost sure this has been asked before, I mean, why wouldn't you... Are the Phantoms neutral, or have you experienced them to go into the bright side; the warm side? Meaning, does it have a signature, instead of the music sounding how it was meant to. I listened to a pair of B&W CM10 S2, at Best Buy ($4K a pair), and they sounded on the bright side. Maybe the lack of bass leads me to think this, I'm not sure. But it was just something that turned me off, because the music just sounded the same. Like if it had a signature, instead of music sounding how it was meant to. Thanks. Dvlt PhD RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - Novak - 22-Jul-2015 Hello again, it has been nearly two weeks with the white Phantom now. Really pleased with how it's sounding, and working. I don't know if there's any burn in, but things have improved to my ears. It's most likely down to positioning – It's on a sturdy stool around 50cm high which suits my listening position. I'm getting many pleasant surprises as I go through the collection, and it complements my natural sounding (and more 'delicate and refined' sounding) Jadis / Harbeth main system, with the more full range, gutsy sound which you can throw anything at. I find for lower volumes I like the night feature, which takes some of the bass out and reveals the detail and mid range a little better in my room. When past 40 or 45, it really opens up and it sounds absolutely fantastic. I think (as per other comments) the bass is a bit too much at lower levels otherwise, but the night feature solves it for me. I agree with other views around giving it some space and a sturdy stand, but I counter some arguments that you need two to get a good sound. Depends on the music, I'm finding some acoustic / folkish music to sound sublime with one channel, almost like the singer is there in the room. Anyway, really pleased. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - f1eng - 22-Jul-2015 Dvlt PhD The Phantoms have a neutral sound, with flat frequency response and very low distortion. There is DSP correction of amplitude and timing in bass and mid sections. Not everybody likes (perhaps because it is not too common) a low colouration neutral sound though... The bass extension means that careful room positioning is necessary for even in room bass, as it is with any full range speaker. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - MountainGuy - 22-Jul-2015 (22-Jul-2015, 18:03)Novak Wrote: Hello again, it has been nearly two weeks with the white Phantom now. Really pleased with how it's sounding, and working. Thanks. You mentioned that the Jadis/Harbeth are more delicate and refined. When you set the Phamton on night feature so that bass is less, does the gap in delicacy and refinement close? I can only have one system and had decided against it for a more conventional system for the better mids. But now rethinking it as the system I would have is much larger (floorstander) and less flexible along with less bass extension. So we are now leaning towards Phantom again for its flexibility and bass extension. The question is how much of the mid/bass quality are we giving up. We are hoping it will be worthwhile trade off. To be able to move a system easily from room to room is a boon. No way we could do that with a 80 lbs amp, pair of 40 lbs speakers, cables, Dac etc. Just too much work. But with the Phantom, can just lift two large spheres and replug in another room. MtnGuy RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - Novak - 22-Jul-2015 Yes, I'd say the gap closes with the night feature, although would need to do another side by side test. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - MountainGuy - 22-Jul-2015 Thanks. That was a FAST reply. MtnGuy RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - daddypigmoran - 22-Jul-2015 I had the white version which I thought was excellent but sold it and upgraded to 2 silvers with a dialog. The whites can go very loud and yes the silvers go even louder but to be honest I can't imagine many people playing either at full volume. I live rurally with no neighbours to really worry about and can really crank it up but rarely go past 50-60% volume. Sonically though I think the silvers are noticeably better through the entire range. I'm no audio expert and I spoke to many hifi dealers who couldn't recommend a better system at a similar price point or beyond. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - fettler269 - 23-Jul-2015 That's interesting as I distinctly remember seeing an article where Devialet were demonstrating a white and silver Phantom as a stereo pair and when questioned about it, the response was that they were the same, but the silver Phantom goes louder, (if I can find the article, I will post it). It sounds like you had a single white Phantom and upgraded to a pair of silvers. In that case, I have no doubt that a stereo pair will sound better than a single unit. RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - Dvlt PhD - 24-Jul-2015 (22-Jul-2015, 18:09)f1eng Wrote: Dvlt PhD Thanks, f1eng. I'll keep that in mind. I have system like this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005AY9E?ie=UTF8&ref_=de_a_smtd&showDetailTechData=1#technical-data Only the placement of the front tweeter driver is different... I'm ok with it's sound. I can control the bass; treble... MSRP was probably less than $300... It's mindboggling that when I listened to the B&W $4k priced pair I mentioned, above...the B&W wasn't worth it, period. |