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SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Flashman - 11-Sep-2019
I recently purchased a used pair of the Vivid B1 Decade speakers. There is a SAM profile for the B1 but not the special edition Decade, which was only produced in 400 units (200 black and 200 red). As it's got different specs than the B1, it needs its own SAM profile.
I am curious as to whether anyone on this board has access to the Devialet mobile lab, where the B1 Decade could be measured and receive its own SAM profile. I know, I know, it's a long, long shot!
Make no mistake: I am thoroughly pleased with the speaker sans the SAM profile. I just want to experiment with SAM, if possible.
BTW, I have corresponded with @Drifter who also has (and loves) the B1 Decade speaker. Both our speakers are in glorious red!
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Drifter - 12-Sep-2019
It would indeed be awesome if we can get a SAM profile for the B1Decades.
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Filips - 12-Sep-2019
+1
I have B1d from December 2015 and still there is no profile for this model.
From Vivid Audio's side I heard the main reason for this was small production number.
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Rockit - 18-Feb-2020
I add my support. Recently joined the Devialet family but notice my Decades aren't SAM'd.
Have no idea (haven't heard) what difference SAM makes but would like to give it a try.
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Flashman - 18-Feb-2020
I contacted one of the Vivid Audio principals back in September 2019 about this possibility. Here's what he had to say:
"We do not really believe the SAM algorithm adds value when used on our 3- and 4-way speakers. In the main due to the 'over-designed' high levels of linearity (unusual) nature of our speakers. Interestingly, most owners have communicated they prefer SAM in the off position. But, of course, this is personal. (The vast majority) of loudspeakers out there utilize the inferior (inexpensive) 'long-coil short-gap' design principle (an over-hung motor). These drivers are notoriously non linear, especially at higher excursions. You will be amazed to hear that the vast majority of our competitors utilize this inferior technology."
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Vivialet - 18-Feb-2020
simply try the SAM profile of the standard B1. It will probably work fine. If you start with low volumes there is no risk for the speakers. I also tried my Giya G2 with other profiles before the G2 profile was available.
I'm still using SAM with an active room correction (Mathaudio RoomEQ) which gives very good results.
RE: SAM profile for Vivid B1 Decade - Flashman - 19-Feb-2020
(18-Feb-2020, 19:15)Vivialet Wrote: simply try the SAM profile of the standard B1.Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not trying it out. The B1D has a different crossover and I've been advised elsewhere not to go there with the SAM B1 profile.