(10-Oct-2020, 14:17)Bartype Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 01:08)alandbush Wrote:

(09-Oct-2020, 23:03)Bartype Wrote: Well, i have tried put a simple one frequency setting within Roon and exactly the same settings within sweet room. I can tell Roon is sounding much better with this same setting compared to Sweet room, which sounds flat... Or i am doing something wrong.

Not all equalisers use the same formulae and Roon and Sweet Room are different.

For example

Roon
For the Peaking filters the bandwidth in Hz between the half gain points is given by:

Bandwidth = centre frequency/Q

100hz  6db  Q=7.079


Sweet Room
For the Peaking filters the bandwidth in Hz between the half gain points is given by:

Bandwidth = sqrt(gain)*centre frequency/Q

100hz  6db  Q=10


As you can see, the Q values are different in generating the same filter shape.

You can convert Roon filters to Sweet Room filters by using REW.
Within REW, select EQ tab, choose the 'Generic' equaliser for Roon, enter the filter values then change the equaliser to 'Rephase'.

GREAT, thank you, i'll try this out!

(10-Oct-2020, 16:21)Bartype Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 14:17)Bartype Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 01:08)alandbush Wrote: You can convert Roon filters to Sweet Room filters by using REW.
Within REW, select EQ tab, choose the 'Generic' equaliser for Roon, enter the filter values then change the equaliser to 'Rephase'.

GREAT, thank you, i'll try this out!

I can confirm this works! The end result is a fairly big difference between the Q values of Roon and Sweet room while the other values stay the same...

(10-Oct-2020, 03:36)mdconnelly Wrote:

(09-Oct-2020, 22:35)arnoveldhoven Wrote:

(06-Oct-2020, 16:41)mdconnelly Wrote: I won't have a chance to download this update until probably this weekend.    Has anyone had a chance to try it while playing hi-res music via Roon RAAT on a gigabit ethernet connection?    Their release notes state "improvements in Roon Ready..." and do not explicitly state a solution to this bug.    I will certainly test once I get a chance.

I tried it but my problem stays the same. Dropouts while playing music.

Yep, for me as well.   Far fewer than before but there are still occasional dropouts - particularly with 96 or 192 kHz music at 24 bits. I see it at least on nearly every track I play at 96khz or 192khz 24bit.   I’ve not seen it yet with 16 bit tracks.

(11-Oct-2020, 00:33)arnoveldhoven Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 03:36)mdconnelly Wrote:

(09-Oct-2020, 22:35)arnoveldhoven Wrote: I tried it but my problem stays the same. Dropouts while playing music.

Yep, for me as well.   Far fewer than before but there are still occasional dropouts - particularly with 96 or 192 kHz music at 24 bits. I see it at least on nearly every track I play at 96khz or 192khz 24bit.   I’ve not seen it yet with 16 bit tracks.

I now use it with a 100mb switch as you suggested. And till now no dropouts 👊🏻

(10-Oct-2020, 09:53)Vivialet Wrote: this tutorial is full of errors. In some of the sample screenshots all filters are names EQ_1_L. Should be a running number from 1 to 9.

(11-Oct-2020, 17:56)Stino Wrote: Hello friends,

Just experimented with the Room Perfect feature. However, unsure whether I am doing it correctly.

I've done three sweeps, both channels together, and smoothed the curves. This gives me the following:

https://flic.kr/p/2jSivRP



Is that a reasonable starting point. Subsequently, I did as given in https://pbxbook.com/other/devialeteq.html but I did not get the link 'calculate target level from response'. So tried some clicks here and there and suddently got a file:

"EQ_1_L":[36.0, -12.0, 7.100],
"EQ_2_L":[4980,  -5.3, 1.400],
"EQ_3_L":[205,  -7.7, 2.500],
"EQ_4_L":[337,  -1.8, 1.100],
"EQ_5_L":[499,  -4.9, 4.500],
"EQ_6_L":[1110,  -7.1, 7.900],
"EQ_7_L":[138,  -7.6, 10.000],
"EQ_8_L":[91.6,  -6.7, 10.000],


To me, these frequencies are not really the bumps / drops on the graph, right, and no clue whether the other values make sense. The music does sound a bit dull and have the feeling I lost quite some details. Can someone help me out here?

Thanks!

PS: also have the feeling i need to turn the volume up more than before...

(11-Oct-2020, 17:56)Stino Wrote: Hello friends,

Just experimented with the Room Perfect feature. However, unsure whether I am doing it correctly.

I've done three sweeps, both channels together, and smoothed the curves. This gives me the following:

https://flic.kr/p/2jSivRP



Is that a reasonable starting point. Subsequently, I did as given in https://pbxbook.com/other/devialeteq.html but I did not get the link 'calculate target level from response'. So tried some clicks here and there and suddently got a file:

"EQ_1_L":[36.0, -12.0, 7.100],
"EQ_2_L":[4980,  -5.3, 1.400],
"EQ_3_L":[205,  -7.7, 2.500],
"EQ_4_L":[337,  -1.8, 1.100],
"EQ_5_L":[499,  -4.9, 4.500],
"EQ_6_L":[1110,  -7.1, 7.900],
"EQ_7_L":[138,  -7.6, 10.000],
"EQ_8_L":[91.6,  -6.7, 10.000],


To me, these frequencies are not really the bumps / drops on the graph, right, and no clue whether the other values make sense. The music does sound a bit dull and have the feeling I lost quite some details. Can someone help me out here?

Thanks!

PS: also have the feeling i need to turn the volume up more than before...

(10-Oct-2020, 21:29)alandbush Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 16:21)Bartype Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 14:17)Bartype Wrote: GREAT, thank you, i'll try this out!

I can confirm this works! The end result is a fairly big difference between the Q values of Roon and Sweet room while the other values stay the same...

Brilliant.  But does the Sweet Room EQ still sound flat?

(11-Oct-2020, 20:41)Bartype Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 21:29)alandbush Wrote:

(10-Oct-2020, 16:21)Bartype Wrote: I can confirm this works! The end result is a fairly big difference between the Q values of Roon and Sweet room while the other values stay the same...

Brilliant.  But does the Sweet Room EQ still sound flat?

No, when the roon setting is converted within Rew to the Rephase equalizer and the resulting values are used for sweet room it sounds the same as within Roon, and that's very good!