21-Sep-2016, 23:39
What is the "mp3 player"? Is it a computer? Going straight to a digital output instead of via analogue has got to be a better route?
How about Audio converter ?
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21-Sep-2016, 23:39
What is the "mp3 player"? Is it a computer? Going straight to a digital output instead of via analogue has got to be a better route?
22-Sep-2016, 07:46
(21-Sep-2016, 23:39)booshtukka Wrote: What is the "mp3 player"? Is it a computer? Going straight to a digital output instead of via analogue has got to be a better route? OPs post 6 in the thread answers this. Probably a portable player of some kind which the OP prefers to use
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22-Sep-2016, 08:26
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22-Sep-2016, 08:58
(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote:(21-Sep-2016, 16:53)intouch1 Wrote: in all honesty, don't bother.....phantoms don't have enough imaging or staging I have indeed. with an Astell&Kern 120 II and Hirez material up to DSD.....and as mentioned by me somewhere else the Phantoms IMO opinion are mid-fi at best. Don't get me wrong, it is a great product for what it is....I have 2 pairs that I got to use on a boat. But high-end sounding, they are certainly not. Let alone for the reason of compression when played louder....i.e. the bass loosing a lot of bottom end for the sake of being loud. The midrange is far from what I call a sweet midrange. Not to compare to larger setups, but just to say compare to focal Diablo Utopia. For clarification, both my pairs are Silvers. but I doubt the gold to be much better simply for the change of some processing and tweeter material. Keep in mind that Wilson Audio uses a silk dome tweeter after having used titanium for years. Hope this makes sense. snapshot of some of the gear the I have for comparison......
22-Sep-2016, 09:42
(22-Sep-2016, 08:58)intouch1 Wrote:While I agree that the Phantom could have a much better midrange presentation, the Whites I tested did reasonably well on imaging. After I made a RC filter for them I had very nice staging too. I rarely play louder than 85 dB SPL so I can not comment on compression and loosing bass. Phantoms need proper placement and stands. Judging by the image you've uploaded placing Phantoms on their packaging is not the best.(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote:(21-Sep-2016, 16:53)intouch1 Wrote: in all honesty, don't bother.....phantoms don't have enough imaging or staging
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22-Sep-2016, 09:58
(22-Sep-2016, 09:42)ogs Wrote:(22-Sep-2016, 08:58)intouch1 Wrote:While I agree that the Phantom could have a much better midrange presentation, the Whites I tested did reasonably well on imaging. After I made a RC filter for them I had very nice staging too. I rarely play louder than 85 dB SPL so I can not comment on compression and loosing bass. Phantoms need proper placement and stands. Judging by the image you've uploaded placing Phantoms on their packaging is not the best.(21-Sep-2016, 17:24)ogs Wrote: Have you experienced this in your own system? ogs, that is certainly not how I listen to any of my setups.....its all just sitting there as I was fiddling around....when listening I make sure the setup is as best as could be. I like to interchange amps speakers etc.
22-Sep-2016, 11:53
(22-Sep-2016, 09:58)intouch1 Wrote: when listening I make sure the setup is as best as could be. Well I thought you would My (very modest) speakers also outperform Phantoms in some respects so I understand what you are saying. I'd suggest this is not within the OPs original question. Running from a 3.5 mm output on a portable player is more convenience than high-end so imaging and such may not be the most important.
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