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Phantom white vs silver + general impressions
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(10-Jul-2015, 22:43)Dvlt PhD Wrote:
(09-Jul-2015, 16:20)f1eng Wrote:
(08-Jul-2015, 00:33)Dvlt PhD Wrote:
(07-Jul-2015, 18:13)f1eng Wrote: There is actually no difference except the peak power, so as long as the max volume is less than 70, which is I believe full power for full modulation, there is no way that they can sound any different to a silver up to a volume of 64, although the extra price may well have a marked placebo effect!

 If this is accurate, it's great news. Because that way, one could get a Silver, just for future-proof, without having to worry about volume differences.

Do you mean I could do a blind test with standard and silver, with specific volumes between 0 and 64, and it would be like using a white silver, because it would show that using the same volume level in both, would give the same dB level?


You mentioned in another thread that you haven't listened to Standard Phantom. How can you be so sure? Have somebody confirmed this for you?

Thanks.


(07-Jul-2015, 20:59)Novak Wrote: I recently read the same, Devialet did a demo with one channel in white and one in silver, stating there's no audible difference unless you are maxing out the volume. Anyway, haven't heard either of them, but will be receiving a white one very soon. I'm not one to play loud, so hopefully it will be just fine. Looking forward to getting started.

 Did you keep a link, please?


Thanks.



Dvlt PhD

Same tweeter, same mid unit same sized (but higher power handling) bass units, same technology amplifier. By what mechanism could they possibly sound any different whilst operating below the limit of the amplifiers?
The difference between a silver Phantom and a white is unlikely to be greater than the general sample variation in production.

And anyway that is what Devialet said originally the only difference in spec is the maximum possible SPL.

I would imagine that if max power at full modulation is at volume setting 70, and if the volume level is calibrated in dBs then the silver Phantom at 64 will be the same loudness as a white at 70. If using an unmatched pair perhaps Spark/Dialog compensates for this difference if you define them as a stereo pair during the setup procedure, but I don't know for sure.

@f1eng Bold: I think that's bad news for people who like to listen to music at low volumes sometimes... Does this mean that the Silver will not have the volume level that the Standard Phantom has at volume level 0-6? Meaning that at volume level 1 on the Silver, it will be like volume level 7 on the Standard Phantom?
Good point, it probably is not dB then.
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RE: Phantom white vs silver + general impressions - by f1eng - 11-Jul-2015, 13:48

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