10-Aug-2015, 14:36
(This post was last modified: 10-Aug-2015, 14:42 by teddlesdee.)
After rather a lot of faffing about and experimentation, I found the well-kept secret that allowed sub out to work on my D400!
When you get the D400 or add a 200 companion, the configurator helpfully shows the sub-out being the bottom (companion) output next to the link connector twix both amps. The corresponding top one on the master shows as disabled 'pre'.
...and with very little else to steer you, you assume (stupidly as in my case) that there is some sort of electronic wizardry that allows such a mono out... ummmmm no! Hrs & hrs were spent trying different things out with absolutely no success, even when you find the option for your remote to make the middle button the on-off sub button, or fiddle with all the settings on the 4th or 5th menu down on the 'tone/balance' button!
Dealers, bless them, didn't really reveal anything new either, and now, I have found the solution, I am guessing their demo stuff consists of a single D200 or 120 only!
So what did I find? (by accident)
Again, fiddling with my heart still sinking, I noticed that the upper (of the two monoblocks) 'pre' connector once activated, had another option I did not notice before (yes! another Sub out!)... and then all fell into place! BOTH sub outs MUST be activated with identical mono settings, giving right & left outs respectively. Once BOTH are activated, then that middle remote button suddenly transforms & shows three small circles above the 'SUB' word. By moving the dial, you select between the two outers (separate left & right subs presumably if you have two), or the centre circle that indicates you are connecting to a single sub via both 'outs'.
Right or wrong... this worked ! HOOOORAY! at frikkin last!
Oh why oh why don't Devialet give numpties like me a clue! Their documentation on the subject is woefully inadequate, to the point of being useless for twin Dev users - unless there is another doc hidden somewhere? But two well-respected dealers also could not shed any light on the subject either?
So back to my quest... what SubWoofer do I go for? Tried the REL S3 (admittedly with high level inputs), tried a SVS SB13 using the newly found low level option... REL OK - nice looking but...
The SVS pressed all the right buttons for me - Problem is the sheer size of the thing! It is a bit of a monster for an average UK home! Not sure on the big metal grille thingy either! Not very Wife-friendly!
Both REL & SVS have the controls at the back of the units, which is a faff, and difficult to see when setting up though...
After lots more looking at reviews, I have concluded that maybe, just maybe the JL E110 might fit the bill? The controls are at the front, which is a good move, and it is quite small compared to SVS. Reviews seem to point at the 10 inch as being able to hold its own in the deep bass department, against much bigger brethren? Has anyone used these?
Did look at the F110, but heck... the price puts it out of my reach...
And I could not find any comparison reviews betwix the E110 and F110 which is a shame. So why is it so much more expensive?
...later I might see if my finances could stretch to two of the E110s, but that would be later...
The only problem I see is that UK dealers don't seem to have the E110 displayed on their website, the dealer list is small, and the cost seems to be reflecting the £=$ rate yet again! No idea on warranty either.... Looks like you can however get them through fleabay direct from the USA which was a bit of a surprise, and at a more reasonable price!
Any thoughts or input would be grateful....
When you get the D400 or add a 200 companion, the configurator helpfully shows the sub-out being the bottom (companion) output next to the link connector twix both amps. The corresponding top one on the master shows as disabled 'pre'.
...and with very little else to steer you, you assume (stupidly as in my case) that there is some sort of electronic wizardry that allows such a mono out... ummmmm no! Hrs & hrs were spent trying different things out with absolutely no success, even when you find the option for your remote to make the middle button the on-off sub button, or fiddle with all the settings on the 4th or 5th menu down on the 'tone/balance' button!
Dealers, bless them, didn't really reveal anything new either, and now, I have found the solution, I am guessing their demo stuff consists of a single D200 or 120 only!
So what did I find? (by accident)
Again, fiddling with my heart still sinking, I noticed that the upper (of the two monoblocks) 'pre' connector once activated, had another option I did not notice before (yes! another Sub out!)... and then all fell into place! BOTH sub outs MUST be activated with identical mono settings, giving right & left outs respectively. Once BOTH are activated, then that middle remote button suddenly transforms & shows three small circles above the 'SUB' word. By moving the dial, you select between the two outers (separate left & right subs presumably if you have two), or the centre circle that indicates you are connecting to a single sub via both 'outs'.
Right or wrong... this worked ! HOOOORAY! at frikkin last!
Oh why oh why don't Devialet give numpties like me a clue! Their documentation on the subject is woefully inadequate, to the point of being useless for twin Dev users - unless there is another doc hidden somewhere? But two well-respected dealers also could not shed any light on the subject either?
So back to my quest... what SubWoofer do I go for? Tried the REL S3 (admittedly with high level inputs), tried a SVS SB13 using the newly found low level option... REL OK - nice looking but...
The SVS pressed all the right buttons for me - Problem is the sheer size of the thing! It is a bit of a monster for an average UK home! Not sure on the big metal grille thingy either! Not very Wife-friendly!
Both REL & SVS have the controls at the back of the units, which is a faff, and difficult to see when setting up though...
After lots more looking at reviews, I have concluded that maybe, just maybe the JL E110 might fit the bill? The controls are at the front, which is a good move, and it is quite small compared to SVS. Reviews seem to point at the 10 inch as being able to hold its own in the deep bass department, against much bigger brethren? Has anyone used these?
Did look at the F110, but heck... the price puts it out of my reach...
And I could not find any comparison reviews betwix the E110 and F110 which is a shame. So why is it so much more expensive?
...later I might see if my finances could stretch to two of the E110s, but that would be later...
The only problem I see is that UK dealers don't seem to have the E110 displayed on their website, the dealer list is small, and the cost seems to be reflecting the £=$ rate yet again! No idea on warranty either.... Looks like you can however get them through fleabay direct from the USA which was a bit of a surprise, and at a more reasonable price!
Any thoughts or input would be grateful....
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