Kef Reference 3 + Devialet 200

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Anybody has experience with this setup?
Going to buy a new setup soon, but the D400 is not really on my list because it's 12900 euros.

Will the D200 be able to drive the Kef Reference 3 properly?
I heard the D120 with the Kef Reference 1 and it was phenomenal!
Even though the Ref 1 sound impressive (very) I'm looking for that bottom octave it can't deliver therefore the Ref 3 would be ideal.

Thanks!

Did you hear the KEF Reference 1 with or without SAM enabled? With SAM it is supposed to go down into the 20s
(I am considering the Ref 1 for my D250)

I did hear the Ref 1 with SAM and without SAM. I did make a pleasing (not huge) improvement in the bass area.
The high and mid presentation was to my ears the same.
You have to keep in mind that (according to their site) Devialet says the Ref 1 would go as low as 23 hertz.
From what I've learned that may be correct when you measure it with super high tech equipment and you have an optimal room.
It wil not go as low as 23 hertz for your ears and body. I played the same track (angel by massive attack) and even though it
went deeper with SAM enabled, it most definitely did not reach 23 hertz.
So to get such a low bass response you still need a speaker with a large cabinet, no matter how much clever software
based engineering people can make you still need a physical large speaker to deliver the REAL frequencies.

Now you may think "but what about Devialet's Phanthom? They are small and go deep in bass"
Yes you are right and you're not. They do go deep in bass for their size. So maybe you think that all the things
I said about a speaker needing to have a large cabinet to deliver those frequencies is not true. Well they do get
absurdly low in bass and they may go as deep as a LARGE floorstander ON PAPER, your ears may tell you they almost do.
But your body doesn't not feel that way. I can't really describe it but their is no way the Phantom's can give you the same
impact a large (good) floorstander can. They are not meant to. In my opinion they are made to blow the hell out of some
mainstream easy to use brands like sonos and bose, or whatever you have on the market. They are by no means a
competition for real high end speakers.

What you have written here makes no sense whatsoever I am afraid.
Not credible at all. Breaking the laws of physics.

Then enlighten me my friend
All I'm trying to say is that small speakers can't go that low in frequency then large speakers cause of their cabinet size and or drivers.
Like I said the Phantom goes low for its size and on paper is goes lower then some large floorstanders. It can give you the illusion of going
very low but put a big high end speaker beside it and it will be night and day. Software tweaks and engineering don't change the physical size of the speaker it can help but it's still limited.

So what you mean is that because I am saying small speakers can sound impressive but can't deliver those bottom octaves like larger speakers can
I'm telling things that aren't true and it's not credible. That's what I call a contradiction.