Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 3 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Cartridges and phono settings
(01-Aug-2019, 21:54)Greg Wrote: SUT’s work but provide inbalance across the frequency range. They are not linear. The real solution is a separate dedicated phonostage with sufficient gain to allow good signal to your amps line stage input. Mathieu Pernot recently told me this was a ridiculous solution to my hiss on the Devialet phonostage albeit there are plenty of other Devialet users of various models who are troubled by this hiss, particularly with low output MC cartridges. I understand Mathieu has already been sent some file recordings of this hiss and my recording will follow soon. Let’s hope that what he says when he has analysed these recorded files is helpful. I am willing to accept my use of an external phonostage is ridiculous if he can make my Devialet stage quiet as he indicated at Oxford Audio Consultants a couple of weeks ago. He said, if it hisses, it’s wrong and needs attention. I remain overly sceptical because of the number of people who also report the same problem.

We’ll see, but to be honest, under the apparent current company climate, I’m not holding my breath.

Adding an active stage before the Devialet is highly unlikely to reduce hiss, and is fairly likely to increase it due to having two active gain stages. It's just the nature of active electronics.

SUTs do reduce hiss, for sure, but as you point out, you have to play with loading to get everything dialed in correctly to make it as linear as possible. Unless you like using SUTs as a tone control...some people do, but that's not my goal.

The lesson: there is no free lunch / perfect solution.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 10-Aug-2014, 16:41
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Eddye - 10-Aug-2014, 17:37
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 10-Aug-2014, 21:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 11-Aug-2014, 00:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Eddye - 11-Aug-2014, 18:36
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 11-Aug-2014, 19:14
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 11-Aug-2014, 19:27
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 11-Aug-2014, 19:37
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 11-Aug-2014, 03:34
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Eddye - 11-Aug-2014, 10:22
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 12-Aug-2014, 02:42
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Aug-2014, 03:34
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Aug-2014, 10:30
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 12-Aug-2014, 03:39
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Aug-2014, 03:48
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 12-Aug-2014, 15:23
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Eddye - 12-Aug-2014, 18:32
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 12-Aug-2014, 18:30
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Aug-2014, 19:55
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 12-Aug-2014, 20:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 12-Aug-2014, 19:08
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 12-Aug-2014, 20:50
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Aug-2014, 21:51
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 13-Aug-2014, 00:45
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 13-Aug-2014, 01:04
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 13-Aug-2014, 01:21
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 13-Aug-2014, 02:39
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by adstew - 13-Aug-2014, 05:36
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 13-Aug-2014, 06:51
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 13-Aug-2014, 11:53
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 13-Aug-2014, 20:17
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 13-Aug-2014, 20:32
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 13-Aug-2014, 20:41
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 14-Aug-2014, 00:59
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 14-Aug-2014, 13:41
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 14-Aug-2014, 23:52
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 15-Aug-2014, 00:04
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 15-Aug-2014, 00:25
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 15-Aug-2014, 00:30
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 15-Aug-2014, 08:05
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mikeeo - 15-Aug-2014, 10:21
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 16-Aug-2014, 09:15
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mohmm - 16-Aug-2014, 10:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 17-Aug-2014, 00:25
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Wallard - 28-Aug-2014, 07:08
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Wallard - 28-Aug-2014, 09:03
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 24-Feb-2016, 23:49
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Harry. - 01-Oct-2016, 18:01
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by GTX - 19-Sep-2014, 00:18
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by photon - 29-Dec-2014, 17:53
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by rbsound - 16-Dec-2014, 18:14
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 27-Dec-2014, 16:34
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 28-Dec-2014, 15:55
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 29-Dec-2014, 09:45
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 23-Jan-2015, 14:07
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by brit - 13-Feb-2015, 21:59
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by brit - 13-Feb-2015, 23:46
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by jccox - 07-Mar-2015, 22:10
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 08-Mar-2015, 17:36
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by jccox - 09-Mar-2015, 22:41
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 10-Mar-2015, 07:08
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by jccox - 10-Mar-2015, 14:57
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 08-Mar-2015, 17:53
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by thumb5 - 08-Mar-2015, 18:59
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by tof - 17-May-2015, 16:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 28-Jun-2015, 01:35
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 12-Jul-2015, 14:01
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Davyboy - 13-Jul-2015, 10:38
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by brit - 13-Jul-2015, 10:52
Clearaudio Maestro V2 settings? - by DonaldLL - 29-Aug-2015, 18:12
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by fugazi - 13-Oct-2015, 08:59
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 24-Oct-2015, 16:57
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by msl - 11-Jan-2016, 08:16
Cartridges and phono settings - by no32 - 12-Jan-2016, 16:36
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by brit - 12-Jan-2016, 21:26
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by marcor - 12-Jan-2016, 21:40
Cartridges and phono settings - by no32 - 12-Jan-2016, 22:38
Cartridges and phono settings - by no32 - 22-Jan-2016, 10:54
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Phillid - 13-Apr-2019, 09:22
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 23-Feb-2016, 18:10
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 23-Feb-2016, 20:19
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by petrik - 23-Feb-2016, 20:42
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 23-Feb-2016, 20:44
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by petrik - 23-Feb-2016, 21:03
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 23-Feb-2016, 21:11
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Dr Tone - 23-Feb-2016, 21:23
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by vicchow - 24-Aug-2016, 19:30
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 09-Oct-2016, 09:19
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Roberto - 24-Sep-2016, 07:26
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 01-Oct-2016, 21:18
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 09-Oct-2016, 09:29
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 01-Oct-2016, 21:22
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Axel - 02-Oct-2016, 03:27
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 09-Oct-2016, 09:20
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Mka - 09-Oct-2016, 09:22
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 09-Oct-2016, 11:34
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 09-Oct-2016, 17:14
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 09-Oct-2016, 22:50
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 10-Oct-2016, 07:00
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 10-Oct-2016, 07:15
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 13-Oct-2016, 22:17
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 20-Oct-2016, 09:49
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 23-Oct-2016, 23:15
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 19-May-2018, 23:15
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 22-May-2018, 15:49
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 22-May-2018, 22:33
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 23-May-2018, 04:52
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 28-Oct-2018, 08:01
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 28-Oct-2018, 12:13
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 28-Oct-2018, 18:28
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 09-Feb-2019, 18:26
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 09-Feb-2019, 19:23
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 10-Feb-2019, 21:52
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 11-Feb-2019, 18:25
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 14-Feb-2019, 13:28
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 14-Feb-2019, 13:56
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 14-Feb-2019, 17:27
Cartridges and phono settings - by KraaijCheck - 02-May-2019, 06:31
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by f1eng - 01-Aug-2019, 19:21
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Greg - 01-Aug-2019, 21:54
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by watchnerd - 02-Aug-2019, 15:14
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Greg - 02-Aug-2019, 21:15
Cartridges and phono settings - by Waiski - 03-Aug-2019, 06:06
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 12-Aug-2019, 12:27
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 15-Aug-2019, 15:06
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Waiski - 15-Aug-2019, 16:16
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Finn - 15-Aug-2019, 17:54
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Greg - 15-Aug-2019, 20:58
Cartridges and phono settings - by Waiski - 17-Aug-2019, 05:45
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by chrisc - 17-Aug-2019, 18:54
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 25-Mar-2020, 09:42
Cartridges and phono settings - by no32 - 17-Apr-2020, 05:45
Cartridges and phono settings - by Elztalbiker - 17-Apr-2020, 13:07
Cartridges and phono settings - by no32 - 18-Apr-2020, 02:46
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by jorgie - 26-May-2021, 18:10
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Bartype - 27-May-2021, 12:13
RE: Cartridges and phono settings - by Jens - 24-Nov-2021, 17:45

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 6 Guest(s)