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Expert Pro sound quality
(16-Nov-2016, 15:43)4tLotM Wrote: I have got him back and it takes three weeks. At first i was schocked about the condition of the 250 pro. The wheel of the remote has a scratch and the backkcover a dent. I made a ticket to Devialet. Since three weeks i'm waiting for an answer.
So what about the SQ. First the Pros: deeper and more controlled bass, more details, wider soundstage, all also at lower volumes.
But there are also disappointing experiences. Voices, especially female voices lost the  magic. I heard song after song and and i don't feel touched. It sounded clear with a beautiful bass and soundstage, but my D-Premier had a magic in voices that the 250 pro can't deliver. I tried Anna Calvi, Ben Caplan, Bill Fay, Bon Iver, Joni Mitchell, Sara K, James Taylor, Joana Newsom, Natalie Merchant, Leonard Cohen and so on, but no real feelings. I miss the warm character of my Premier, but no way back.
Three days ago i changed my setup. I moved my speakers, i changed the digital input from aes to cinch and used sam in different percent. Now i got better high frequencies, to much bass, 3 d sounstage but still no emotions like i had before. I don't feel satisfied with hardware and sound.
Sorry for this, but it's the sad truth. I'm thinking about a change to Accuphase or Mcintosh.

Thank you LotM for sharing. That is what I have been trying to say a few times. Please listen before deciding to upgrade. I did and came to the conclusion I should use the money to go double mono instead of using the money to upgrade to a single Pro. I expect and hope your 250 Pro may evolve still to close the gap between what you liked in the D-Premier and what the 250 Pro will eventually deliver. In my view the Pro really has a different sound to it and may be an improvement in some arias, but not necessary in all and for all tastes as some reviewers will have us all believe. This is not a one truth story and the verdict is very personal. Depending on both your setup (speakers, source), acoustics and your personal taste. I understand the enthousiasm involved in getting the upgrade, but the other truths needs to be said also afaic.
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