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Expert Pro sound quality
(18-Dec-2016, 19:27)Damon Wrote: Thanks Antoine,

I admit I have neglected all the things you mention. The microphonics effect you mention from the floor to the cables is something I never thought of. My speakers have bottom ports, and so their effect on the floor is noticeable. My equipment is on wall-mounted shelves. That was not done thinking about sound; it was just fun to build shelves and brackets are easier than legs.

Getting the power and speaker cables separated must be important, and I'm going to fuss with the cable arrangement today. I'm getting the feeling that I now have a system that actually shows the effects of these things, like cable arrangement, whereas I think my past systems simply did not really have the ability to do that.

Crikey, snow in Vancouver; haven't had much of that in a few years. A few minutes with the shovel and broom and I'll have cardio and upper body out of the way for the day.

Hi Damon,

I think your findings are very remarkable (espacially for others) if we look at how everybody here is having a different experience with his new Pro and even the Experts.

It is nearly impossible to judge over a listening experience one has if we can not have at least a grasp on the system he was listening to. So pictures are indispensable if someone is not satisfied with the performance of his system. Me, Antoine and others would have seen the problem you have with the cables within the first view on a pic.

It might also be fact that the 'old' Experts were more forgiving and the Pros bring something onto surface that did not stand out before as you mentioned.

So, is it a good idea to start a thread with well known concepts and clues on what to do and don't? Or will this thread be posted to extinction by nonbelievers with all their 'buts and whens and ifs'? I don't know.

I can imagine it would be very usefull to have a list of 'Do' and 'Do not' where you can check off different concepts and flaws. If you don't believe in a special concept just leave it out and don't elaborate on 'why not'.

gui
"Oh, you can buy the other. But then it is a cost intensive learning process"
berlin
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