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Expert 1000 Pro
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(27-Jun-2016, 12:50)warpeon Wrote: I just went to have a quick listen to the expert pro d1000 (Weiss 301, b&w802) at the Hong Kong dealer. I can only compare this exact setup against d400. It has a lot more texture, the mid range is more solid, better separation amongst different instruments, darker backgrounds and faster. It just sound more real.

The dealers weren't given much more information. What I learned on pricing (still tbc): recent purchases will cost about euro 1k less for the upgrade, le120 can be upgraded to new 200 at slightly higher price (no guidance yet). D250 cannot be upgraded without companion (I.e. Only 800 is upgradable initially); only d1000 will have the copper bottom; the only visual change to the new series is the button (changed from black to white), streamoard availability unknown, software unknown, ODA will be upgraded to d1000 via software.

Lucky you

Since the 800 is better than the 400, the 1000 being better than the 400 is to be expected (as the 1000 is also reportedly better than the un-upgraded OdA).

The true comparative would be 1000 vs 800 and, at a more achievable budget, 400 Pro (or whatever it will be called) vs 400. If the new sound has more warmth and better timbre, it will appeal to a lot more people who have found/criticised the sound to be thin, etc.
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Expert 1000 Pro - by nicoludio - 23-Jun-2016, 10:38
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RE: Expert 1000 Pro - by Confused - 27-Jun-2016, 12:02
RE: Expert 1000 Pro - by warpeon - 27-Jun-2016, 12:50
RE: Expert 1000 Pro - by JohnWyatt34 - 27-Jun-2016, 14:17
Expert 1000 Pro - by nicoludio - 27-Jun-2016, 12:51
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