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German Analog-Forum.de comparison of D250 Pro and D400 versus some other brands
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(03-Dec-2016, 14:44)Vivialet Wrote: I agree that both Devialets did not get the optimal conditions. Especially the 400 was connected to a Behringer digital switch which probably had some negative impact. The distance to the Oracle CD transport was also very long, 6 or 7 meters. The AES/EBU cable was from Viablue.
The 400 was connected to the powerline with WSS cables to a Supra power strip, the other amps were connected with some very expensive looking cables. A lot of things that could be optimized for the Devialet.
But even under these conditions the difference to the 3 times more expensive systems was not night and day. It's not a shame if a 40000€ system sounds a little bit better than a 13000€ system. And I think with the track from Yello (Toy) things might have changed. For me the Devialet was somewhere between the ML 434 and the Jeff Rowland 501. The NAT Transmitter was clearly better than the other amps, but not so convincing with Yello.
And: a 400 or 800 was definitly not the best amp of the world as the new pro models show how much better it can get. And even with a 1000pro I don't think that you will not be able to find a system that sounds better. But for a price, and maybe not so flexible. And huge.
So for me there is only one amp...

That's right for everything you say. But I find it disappointing that often a D is compared to another amp/system there are real flaws in the set up of the Ds and for the competitor everything is (near) perfectly/better arranged.
I mean, is it the only fact that e.g. a D400 comes in so handy it was just showed down on a Mark Levinson? What if a D weighs 40kg? It wouldn't be treated the same way. Sometimes I think a D gets no respect since being so small and nice looking compared to other stuff. It's not taken serious. 'It's just a blinky D-Amp' while even the unique technical concept isn't understood.

I would expect a D250pro come out 1st place in this comparison when set up the right way and burned in as a 250 (not as 1000 because the circuits used inside are completely different in many aspects).
By now it's just another time it comes out as being a 'false/not natural digital amp concept' that has to be second/third to a valve and I don't think it is. I think it is (by far) superior.
Since I have not heard a 1000pro I would still think if set up right (has to be moded maybe) it would come out 1st on 90% of comparisons though it might not be the best amp of the world  Wink

gui
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RE: German Analog-Forum.de comparison of D250 Pro and D400 versus some other brands - by yabaVR - 04-Dec-2016, 10:58

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