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Why Enthusiast Brands will Betray You
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To be clear I too agree (and accept) that being an early adopter one pays more than someone who waits patiently for a market to settle/new products to come out or buys the previous one second hand.

That's not the issue, I did watch the video and in reference to that I responded to mdconnelly (who also watched the Youtube video) who asked -whether- Devialet will 'betray' us. I feel it has already happened, more than once even.

I don't really care but NickB made nothing but an off topic personal 'attack'. He responds to people expressing disappointment (or who give critical/sarcastic remarks) in the same way everywhere (I've seen him do the same on the Roon forum) so that just seems to be his m.o.
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(13-Feb-2017, 16:40)Antoine Wrote: They already 'betrayed' the early adopters when they introduced the 110/170(/240) models after the D-Premier which were in effect cheaper artificially downscaled D-Premiers.

A few years later they betrayed the Od'A buyers too when they introduced the Pro line.

At least there was a three year gap between the launch of the D Premier and that of the 240 and rest of the line.

The gap between O d'A and 1000 PRO was so short IMHO that they had little option but to offer a free upgrade to all O d'A owners. I ordered mine within weeks of the O d'A being announced and this was delivered in April 2016. Within weeks of this the conjecture started about a newer "better" model. That was probably the most unpleasant part since due to the gagging order placed on all dealers after the infamous Versailles event no one would confirm or refute these rumours. 

Then just to rub it in we are last in line for the upgrade.

Guillaume
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(15-Feb-2017, 13:49)GuillaumeB Wrote:
(13-Feb-2017, 16:40)Antoine Wrote: They already 'betrayed' the early adopters when they introduced the 110/170(/240) models after the D-Premier which were in effect cheaper artificially downscaled D-Premiers.

A few years later they betrayed the Od'A buyers too when they introduced the Pro line.

At least there was a three year gap between the launch of the D Premier and that of the 240 and rest of the line.

The gap between O d'A and 1000 PRO was so short IMHO that they had little option but to offer a free upgrade to all O d'A owners. I ordered mine within weeks of the O d'A being announced and this was delivered in April 2016. Within weeks of this the conjecture started about a newer "better" model. That was probably the most unpleasant part since due to the gagging order placed on all dealers after the infamous Versailles event no one would confirm or refute these rumours. 

Then just to rub it in we are last in line for the upgrade.

Guillaume
I can see this from both sides but agree that the gap between launch of the O'dA and the 'standard' Pro was very short, and one I did not understand. Being last in the queue for upgrade must also sting.
Never mind when you get it back it will sound as least as good as my 1000Pro and definitely look a whole lot better!

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