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USB Buss Power?
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Oops, I think I'll have to go and correct a few posts on this forum as it seems I was wrong! Blush (edit: I've corrected hopefully all my posts on this topic)

I own a motherboard for which I can disable the power feed to some of the onboard USB ports. If I disabled the power and connected the Devialet to such a port the Devialet wouldn't play music.

Also I bought a dual-headed USB cable, which is a USB Y-cable that on one side has a USB connector for data only and a second connector for power. Only connecting the data connector wouldn't let the Devialet play music through it's USB input.

After both tests I concluded that the Devialets need the +5V power active. But after reading your post, Mauidan, in which you stated the Devialet does work without the power active this didn't add up so I found a standard USB cable for some extra tests.

A standard USB cable has four (or five if you count the shield around the four leads)

1. VCC (+5V)
2. D- (data -)
3. D+ (data +)
4. GND (Ground)

If the cable is shielded the shield is connected to the metal case around the USB connectors.

I removed the insulating plastic of the cheap USB cable laying the leads bare and one by one I cut the leads inside while playing music. I started with the red +5V lead and music kept playing. Then cut the black ground lead, music still kept playing. Finally I cut the shield and only then the music stopped. Reconnecting the black ground lead resulted in music playback again. The Devialets look to have tied the shield/USB plug metal casing to ground, either directly or indirectly, I can't tell through this test.

Conclusion: the Devialets don't need the +5V power lead active, they need the USB ground connection active either through the shield or ground lead.

So the Auraliti/SoTM USB interface card only cuts the +5V connection and not the USB ground.

For me, except knowing the real workings now, I think this doesn't change anything as I want to isolate both the dirty PC power and ground from the Devialet so I'll keep powering it using both my JCat USB interface card plus Kingrex uPower battery supply.
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USB Buss Power? - by mauidan - 09-Nov-2014, 02:55
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Pim - 09-Nov-2014, 11:14
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Antoine - 09-Nov-2014, 14:17
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Morten - 09-Nov-2014, 16:20
RE: USB Buss Power? - by mauidan - 09-Nov-2014, 19:36
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Morten - 09-Nov-2014, 20:05
RE: USB Buss Power? - by mauidan - 09-Nov-2014, 20:22
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Morten - 09-Nov-2014, 20:27
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Kunter - 09-Nov-2014, 21:31
RE: USB Buss Power? - by gray - 10-Nov-2014, 11:12
RE: USB Buss Power? - by Morten - 25-Nov-2014, 21:10

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