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"Audiophile Grade" Ethernet Switches - The new generation
(14-Dec-2019, 13:28)David A Wrote:
(14-Dec-2019, 10:00)thumb5 Wrote: Just one comment on @David A 's post, not wanting to start an argument, but: if all we have are people's listening results, even if they disagree there is no "right" and "wrong" involved.  Even if it were later "proved" that there was a difference in SQ (for whatever reason) I don't think you could say someone was "wrong" for reporting in good faith what they heard.

I disagree.

If a difference in SQ is proved, those who said there was a difference would be proven right and those who said there wasn't a difference would be proven wrong. On the other hand if it were proven that there was no difference in SQ then those who said there was would be proven wrong and those who said there wasn't would be proven right. At present nothing is proven but that doesn't mean that no-one is right  or wrong, it just means that we don't know who is right and who is wrong.

Let's say that there is a terrorist attack in your city in the middle of a crowd so there's lots of witnesses who subsequently give their statements to the police. What we have is a lot of witness reports and there will be differences in those reports. Some of those differences will arise because they come from people in different locations around the scene so they were seeing things from different angles so one person might have seen the licence plate on the terrorist's car and another may not have been able to see it but other differences arise from mistakes. One person may report that the terrorist had red hair and another that they had black hair. When the terrorist is captured, it is found that they have red hair so the person who said that the terrorist had black hair was wrong.  They're wrong whether or not they reported in good faith. When people tell us their listening results they're giving us a witness report and each detail they report is either right or wrong in the same way as each detail in the witness reports of the terrorist attack is either right or wrong. Reporting that you heard x in good faith does not mean you can't be wrong about x, it just means that if you're wrong then you're wrong because you made a mistake rather than that you're wrong because you lied about the fact.

David,

I understand the point you are making and respect that. In this case, we have an unknown source claiming a subjective test result. My question is if a similar subjective result can be achieved from a more reputable (imo) source. It is not about proving if someone is right or wrong.

Hope that helps.

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RE: "Audiophile Grade" Ethernet Switches - The new generation - by baconbrain - 14-Dec-2019, 13:47

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