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Some sign of Expert line
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(22-Nov-2022, 23:13)Pim Wrote:
(22-Nov-2022, 21:14)zoran_pavlovic Wrote:
(22-Nov-2022, 05:23)Pim Wrote: Zoran, if you like the sound of your Dynaudio's you would be pretty disappointed with the Sopra's. The Focal tweeters are no match for Dynaudio. Not even close.

Hi Pim, 
thanks for joining the discussion. Well, I've got Evoke 50, they have a Cerotar tweeter (used in Special Forty and Confidence). Let me know which Dynaudio model you compared with Sopra 2? 
regards
Zoran

Hi Zoran,

It was the Sopra 1 and Dynaudio Confidence 20. Same room, same electronics, same song. I concentrate on the voice and how natural it sounds whenever I compare.

The Confidence sounded natural although a bit dull. I suspect that was because of the overly treated room (almost the whole side walls treated with 8cm thick absorption.

The Sopras sounded bright and not natural. Not just bright as in a balance towards high frequencies, but bright as in the voice sounding clearly coming from a tweeter that couldn't produce it properly. I was a bit surprised because when my mate was looking for speakers, the two Focals that he compared with the speakers he ended up buying (Fyne audio 502SP) were the closest to the Fyne sound and beat the 3 other brands in the same price range. I believe one was the Kanto range, but I'm not sure.

I have a theory on speakers nowadays. We've come to a point where you can get quite good sound at reasonable prices. For a company to get their speakers to stand out, they tend to go for 'higher resolution'. Just because you can hear more details doesn't mean you're listening to a better representation of the original sound. I'd rather hear the chest of the singer than the saliva on their lips. Hence my love for Vivid speakers, because they seam to be able to do both.

New Confidence series is voiced as most other DY speakers - they like "live" rooms. Of course - not bare walls.

Also, Confidence will create "drama" if there is drama on the recording. They won't make up the drama - unlike some other speakers, including some Focals.
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