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Some sign of Expert line
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(23-Nov-2022, 20:19)David A Wrote:
(23-Nov-2022, 14:24)zoran_pavlovic Wrote: Hi David, so, the conclusion is: if you place Sopra's in the right place they sound natural and great, in opposite they do not produce the sound they should.
As for Dynaudio's, I heard higher models in the series than mine, but when I heard Marten's speakers and Magico's I realized that I prefer that sound much more. Would like to try Vivid Audio because wherever I saw them mentioned in discussions on this forum (and others, Audiogon, etc) I heard just lovely opinions.
And yes, you're right, dealer's showrooms and not always well treated to give the best sound some speaker can produce.
have a nice day
Zoran

Zoran,

The conclusion is that all speakers will deliver their best results if you put them in the right place for them. The right place for one speaker may not be the right place for another speaker, speaker design plays an important part in determining where a speaker will deliver its best result. Some speakers are designed to use boundary support (closeness to walls on one or two sides) more than others, some are designed to work best further out into the room. All speakers will not deliver their best if you don't put them in the right place for them. They may still sound good but not as good as they could sound, or they might sound bad in some way depending on where you place them.

Placement does not only affect Sopras, it affects every speaker. It affects some more than others but it affects every speaker.

Hi @David A
I am in hi-fi for around 30 years. What you're saying is I was reading in Hi Magazines (like Stereophile,  What Hi FI decades ago). 
the rule of an equilateral triangle, some 3 meters between the speakers and some 3 meters sitting position from both speakers. 
Proper positioning is crucial in order to hear good sound, no need to spend words on it.
Well, it caught my interest when you said that in some positions speakers sound natural but in some non-natural. 
I was playing bass guitar for some 10 years and recorded 2 vinyls. I know very well what is the natural sound of bass guitar, drums, acoustic guitar, etc. 
Can you let us know please how you evaluate/ judge when the sound is natural? 
Thanks
Zoran
A) Devialet Expert 220 Pro CI, Audioquest NRG-Z3 — B) Pass Labs XA 30.8, Lampizator Amber V4.0, Innuos Pulse, Dynaudio Evoke 50,  Ansuz PowerSwitch X-TC, WireWorld power cables
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