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Acoustic Zen Adagio Jrs
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Good afternoon.  I am purchasing an Expert 200 form a local buyer to use in a secondary system.  The 200 will drive a pair of Acoustic Zen Adagio Jrs, for which, there is no SAM.  For anyone not familiar with this speaker, it's a realtively heavy (40 lbs) fairly tall (23") bookshelf speaker mounted on 24" stands.  The two-way 3-driver Jr. Adagio utilizes two 6.5-inch mid/woofers and a 1.8" ribbon tweeter  in a midrange-tweeter-midrange arrangement also referred to as a D'Appolito array.  Nominal impedance is 6 ohms and sensitivity is 89dB at one watt, one meter - all in all, not that difficult to drive. 

What would be a SAM file that would be a good comp for this speaker since know AZ files are currently available.

Thanks very much.
Ian
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(17-Jul-2019, 21:09)Ihmeyers Wrote: Good afternoon.  I am purchasing an Expert 200 form a local buyer to use in a secondary system.  The 200 will drive a pair of Acoustic Zen Adagio Jrs, for which, there is no SAM.  For anyone not familiar with this speaker, it's a realtively heavy (40 lbs) fairly tall (23") bookshelf speaker mounted on 24" stands.  The two-way 3-driver Jr. Adagio utilizes two 6.5-inch mid/woofers and a 1.8" ribbon tweeter  in a midrange-tweeter-midrange arrangement also referred to as a D'Appolito array.  Nominal impedance is 6 ohms and sensitivity is 89dB at one watt, one meter - all in all, not that difficult to drive. 

What would be a SAM file that would be a good comp for this speaker since know AZ files are currently available.

Thanks very much.
Ian
Hello Ian, welcome to DC.
It is not considered a good idea to use a SAM profile other than one which is specifically tailored to your speaker. 
I’ll quote directly from Thumb5’s post #78 in this thread: https://devialetchat.com/Thread-UK-event...3#pid85593
"There are plans to roll out more SAM profiles, with the aim of reaching a total of 1000 speaker models by the end of this year.  SAM Lab is still available so if you have speakers you'd like to get SAMed it would be worth contacting Devialet to see whether using SAM Lab would be an option.  Mathieu reminded us that SAM is not compatible with panel speakers (Magnepan, Martin Logan, etc.)."
Your options are either attend a dealer where SAM Lab is being used to profile customers speakers, or send one of your speakers to Devialet for profiling. In either case, contact Devialet direct.
Hope this helps.
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#3
Hi Ihmeyers,

Welcome to DevialetChat.

Yep, the simple answer is; Don't.

We had one member a few years ago who had accidentally put the wrong SD card (with a SAM profile for some of his other speakers) into one of his Experts and he blew up his speakers.
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(18-Jul-2019, 03:22)Pim Wrote: Hi Ihmeyers,

Welcome to DevialetChat.

Yep, the simple answer is; Don't.

We had one member a few years ago who had accidentally put the wrong SD card (with a SAM profile for some of his other speakers) into one of his Experts and he blew up his speakers.


Thanks very much.  Blowing up the speakers would not be good.   Big Grin 

It's funny, you read reviews and the reviewers will often say things like 'you can always try a SAM for a similar speaker and then easily revert back if you don't like it.'

I guess as long as you haven't melted your tweeters.
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(18-Jul-2019, 03:27)Ihmeyers Wrote: It's funny, you read reviews and the reviewers will often say things like 'you can always try a SAM for a similar speaker and then easily revert back if you don't like it.'

Don't believe everything you read. Unless you read it on DevialetChat of course. Tongue
                                                    Lifetime Roon, Mac mini, int. SSD, ext. HDD, tv as monitor, key board and track pad on bean bag as remote,Devialet 200, Od'A #097, Blue jeans speaker cable,                                     
                                                                                                                                                                            Dynaudio C1 MkII.
                                                                                                                                                                              Jim Smith's GBS.
                                                                                                                                                                        Northern NSW Australia.
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