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(31-Aug-2015, 20:50)baddog Wrote: MusicFirst - Thanks so much for the thoughtful reply, I appreciate it.

I am going to settle in with the stock Crystal cable paired with a Hosa RCA/XLR adapter for now, and give it a little time till my ears acclimate before trying something different. I would be interested in trying the Cabledyne, but unlike their other cables, this one cannot be returned as they consider it s custom order. Looking forward yo your further thoughts later this year.

I use the Cabledyne custom cable and I find it really good, better than the stock Crystal cable with rca to xlr adapter. I have Focal Electra 1038BE speakers and the are sounding really good not to bright with this cable.
Speakers:TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500mk2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos Statement Next-gen, Innuos PhoenixNET.

Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus ethernet cable, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cable, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 bass, iFi Nova powercables. 

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Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree









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One thing about the Audioprana that will, perhaps, make some of the purists out there happier, is that they use a 75/110 ohm transformer from Lundahl in the cable between the RCA and XLR connectors.

Kerry
Laufer Teknik Memory Player - Atlas Mavros S/PDIF x 2 - Mutec MC-3+ USB Reclocker - Sablon Panatella BNC-SPDIF Digital Cable - LampizatOr Big 7 Tube DAC
Ayre Acoustics AX5-Twenty Amplifier - Rockport Technologies Cygnus Loudspeakers - Rel Gibralter G1 Six Pack Subs - Siltech Princess XLR - Ear to Ear Cables and PCs - Canada
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(31-Aug-2015, 21:47)MusicFirst Wrote: One thing about the Audioprana that will, perhaps,  make some of the purists out there happier, is that they use a 75/110 ohm transformer from Lundahl in the cable between the RCA and XLR connectors.

Kerry

What is the benefit of this? I know there is more about this on the net and on this forum. Devialet also told me that there is no mening to use a 75/110 ohm transformer on the XLR input when I was looking for a new cable so I went for a Cabledyne RCA to XLR cable.
Speakers:TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500mk2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos Statement Next-gen, Innuos PhoenixNET.

Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus ethernet cable, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cable, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 bass, iFi Nova powercables. 

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Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree









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(01-Sep-2015, 12:09)octaviars Wrote:
(31-Aug-2015, 21:47)MusicFirst Wrote: One thing about the Audioprana that will, perhaps,  make some of the purists out there happier, is that they use a 75/110 ohm transformer from Lundahl in the cable between the RCA and XLR connectors.

Kerry

What is the benefit of this? I know there is more about this on the net and on this forum. Devialet also told me that there is no mening to use a 75/110 ohm transformer on the XLR input when I was looking for a new cable so I went for a Cabledyne RCA to XLR cable.

Matching the characteristic impedence between the connectors and the cable on both the output and (especially) the input ends, is supposed to reduce signal reflections and jitter.

Kerry
Laufer Teknik Memory Player - Atlas Mavros S/PDIF x 2 - Mutec MC-3+ USB Reclocker - Sablon Panatella BNC-SPDIF Digital Cable - LampizatOr Big 7 Tube DAC
Ayre Acoustics AX5-Twenty Amplifier - Rockport Technologies Cygnus Loudspeakers - Rel Gibralter G1 Six Pack Subs - Siltech Princess XLR - Ear to Ear Cables and PCs - Canada
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(01-Sep-2015, 13:13)MusicFirst Wrote:
(01-Sep-2015, 12:09)octaviars Wrote:
(31-Aug-2015, 21:47)MusicFirst Wrote: One thing about the Audioprana that will, perhaps,  make some of the purists out there happier, is that they use a 75/110 ohm transformer from Lundahl in the cable between the RCA and XLR connectors.

Kerry

What is the benefit of this? I know there is more about this on the net and on this forum. Devialet also told me that there is no mening to use a 75/110 ohm transformer on the XLR input when I was looking for a new cable so I went for a Cabledyne RCA to XLR cable.

Matching the characteristic impedence between the connectors and the cable on both the output and (especially) the input ends, is supposed to reduce signal reflections and jitter.

Kerry

Ok, I just went another route after reading on the forum and what Devialet wrote to me about their XLR input and it works perfectly, maybe it would be better with the transformer 75/110 I dont know and at this point I dont think the diffrenses are big.
Speakers:TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500mk2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos Statement Next-gen, Innuos PhoenixNET.

Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus ethernet cable, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cable, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 bass, iFi Nova powercables. 

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Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree









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(01-Sep-2015, 15:07)octaviars Wrote:
(01-Sep-2015, 13:13)MusicFirst Wrote:
(01-Sep-2015, 12:09)octaviars Wrote:
(31-Aug-2015, 21:47)MusicFirst Wrote: One thing about the Audioprana that will, perhaps,  make some of the purists out there happier, is that they use a 75/110 ohm transformer from Lundahl in the cable between the RCA and XLR connectors.

Kerry

What is the benefit of this? I know there is more about this on the net and on this forum. Devialet also told me that there is no mening to use a 75/110 ohm transformer on the XLR input when I was looking for a new cable so I went for a Cabledyne RCA to XLR cable.

Matching the characteristic impedence between the connectors and the cable on both the output and (especially) the input ends, is supposed to reduce signal reflections and jitter.

Kerry

Ok, I just went another route after reading on the forum and what Devialet wrote to me about their XLR input and it works perfectly, maybe it would be better with the transformer 75/110 I dont know and at this point I dont think the diffrenses are big.

Hi,

I did the comparison using a Lundahl 75/110 transformer at the XLR end (75 ohm cable). Compared to non transformed signal ie RCA to 75 ohm cable and XLR in the AES/EBU end I could not hear any difference.
I now run the Cabledyne 75 ohm RCA to XLR which sounds superb.

/Mike
Ex D400 Now Aavik U-300/Feickert Woodpecker2-Kuzma 4P-Kondo silver-Benz LPS-Teddy Pardo PSU/Naim Unitiserve-Teddy Pardo PSU/SF Guarneri Homage/Whole system decoupled by Ansuz DTC/Cables from Ansuz, DYI and other commercial/Dedicated mains and spur-Lampizator SILK
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Thanks, interestingly I was told by Cabledyne that there RCA to XLR cable is 110 Ohm.
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(01-Sep-2015, 16:45)baddog Wrote: Thanks, interestingly I was told by Cabledyne that there RCA to XLR cable is 110 Ohm.

This is something new to me.
Speakers:TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500mk2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos Statement Next-gen, Innuos PhoenixNET.

Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus ethernet cable, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cable, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 bass, iFi Nova powercables. 

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Qobuz Studio -> Devialet Silver Phantom, Devialet Tree









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(01-Sep-2015, 16:45)baddog Wrote: Thanks, interestingly I was told by Cabledyne that there RCA to XLR cable is 110 Ohm.

Mine was a special order, I wanted it like this with 75 ohm cable and Xhadow plugs in both ends.

/Mike
Ex D400 Now Aavik U-300/Feickert Woodpecker2-Kuzma 4P-Kondo silver-Benz LPS-Teddy Pardo PSU/Naim Unitiserve-Teddy Pardo PSU/SF Guarneri Homage/Whole system decoupled by Ansuz DTC/Cables from Ansuz, DYI and other commercial/Dedicated mains and spur-Lampizator SILK
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(01-Sep-2015, 17:29)Mikeeo Wrote:
(01-Sep-2015, 16:45)baddog Wrote: Thanks, interestingly I was told by Cabledyne that there RCA to XLR cable is 110 Ohm.

Mine was a special order, I wanted it like this with 75 ohm cable and Xhadow plugs in both ends.

/Mike

When I ordered mine I told them I wanted the same as Mike so I asume that I got the same but I have sent an email to them to confirm how they build the cable.

This is the answer from Cabledyne.

Quote:If the output is RCA and input is XLR, the cable is 75 Ohms. Some customers asked for the output as XLR and in this case it is 110 Ohm. In order to meet S/PDIF or AES/EBU standards the output and input must be the same interface but the Devialet cable is really just an adapter cable.

Mike specified a 75 Ohm cable. Your cable was made to same specification.

Best regards,

Ed Bowman
Cabledyne
Speakers:TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500mk2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos Statement Next-gen, Innuos PhoenixNET.

Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus ethernet cable, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cable, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 bass, iFi Nova powercables. 

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