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Max headphone impedance
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Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?
Before: Le200, KEF LS50, AQ Type4, NUC 5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, Win8.1/AIR2.1.3/RoonBridge, MM/AIR3/RoonBridge, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS, AQ NRG-X3

Now: KEF LS50W, NUC5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS,iFi iSilencer3.0+DC iPurifier+iPurifier2, Sonos ZP80+SPDIF iPurifier


Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia
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(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!
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South Coast England
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(15-Mar-2015, 13:54)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!

Is this plugged into the 200 without a headphone amp? I currently use a headphone amp and I am keen to try the alternative route of using the 200
Devialet 200 -- Roon Nucleus-- Sonus Faber Olympica 2 -- Tellurium Q Black Speaker Cables --
Chord Qutest -- Niimbus US5 Pro Headphone amp —HifiMan HEK, Abyss 1266TC
Newcastle upon Tyne, England
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(15-Mar-2015, 14:05)Womaz Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 13:54)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!

Is this plugged into the 200 without a headphone amp? I currently use a headphone amp and I am keen to try the alternative route of using the 200
Hi,

Yes, plugged straight into the amp, with a couple of adapters, no headphone amp. I sold my Graham Slee Solo Ultralinear because it became redundant!

Al
Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control.  Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp.Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable,  Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
South Coast England
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(15-Mar-2015, 15:06)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 14:05)Womaz Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 13:54)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!

Is this plugged into the 200 without a headphone amp? I currently use a headphone amp and I am keen to try the alternative route of using the 200
Hi,

Yes, plugged straight into the amp, with a couple of adapters, no headphone amp. I sold my Graham Slee Solo Ultralinear because it became redundant!

Al

Excellent. I ordrered the RCA adaptor yesterday to see how this sounds..........not looking forward to the configuration bit again though
Devialet 200 -- Roon Nucleus-- Sonus Faber Olympica 2 -- Tellurium Q Black Speaker Cables --
Chord Qutest -- Niimbus US5 Pro Headphone amp —HifiMan HEK, Abyss 1266TC
Newcastle upon Tyne, England
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(15-Mar-2015, 13:54)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!

Thanks. I intend to order a Sennheiser HD600. Any special config/setting required on configurator?
Before: Le200, KEF LS50, AQ Type4, NUC 5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, Win8.1/AIR2.1.3/RoonBridge, MM/AIR3/RoonBridge, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS, AQ NRG-X3

Now: KEF LS50W, NUC5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS,iFi iSilencer3.0+DC iPurifier+iPurifier2, Sonos ZP80+SPDIF iPurifier


Location: Cyberjaya, Malaysia
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(16-Mar-2015, 01:25)hk6230 Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 13:54)Axel Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

Hi

I use a pair of stereo pre-amp outs on the D to drive my Sennheiser HD800s which are a 300 ohm load.

I've never heard them sound so good!

Thanks. I intend to order a Sennheiser HD600. Any special config/setting required on configurator?

Hi

You'll have to set a pair of  digital inputs to act as preamp stereo outputs (I use the pair next to the AES/EBU socket), and untick the box that says "mute applies to this output". You'll also need an adapter to go from phono to jack socket.

In general settings under startup, tick the sub/preout box.

Some people advise you to have a remote button programmed to turn the preamp output off, but I've never bothered with this as I just unplug my 'phones.

Al
Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control.  Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp.Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable,  Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

There's no question the Devialet 200 can drive my HD650's. Volume has to be kept relatively high with the default output level setting but there's quite a lot of power left in the tap. Unfortunately at least to my ears the Devialet doesn't sound quite as good this way as my Benchmark DAC2 HGC did.
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(16-Mar-2015, 18:43)Tuomas L Wrote:
(15-Mar-2015, 07:24)hk6230 Wrote: Anyone try using D200 to drive high impedance headphone? Can it drive 300ohm headphone?

There's no question the Devialet 200 can drive my HD650's. Volume has to be kept relatively high with the default output level setting but there's quite a lot of power left in the tap. Unfortunately at least to my ears the Devialet doesn't sound quite as good this way as my Benchmark DAC2 HGC did.

This is interesting. I am going to do a comparison between the 200 and my MFMIHAP when the RCA connector arrives. I am hoping to get rid of the dedicated amp, but there are a few people on here who feel the 200 is not as good as a dedicated Headphone amp.
Devialet 200 -- Roon Nucleus-- Sonus Faber Olympica 2 -- Tellurium Q Black Speaker Cables --
Chord Qutest -- Niimbus US5 Pro Headphone amp —HifiMan HEK, Abyss 1266TC
Newcastle upon Tyne, England
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Hi all. Well the RCA adapter arrived this morning and I did the comparison. The MF headphone amp won by some way in my opinion, so looks like I wont be able to dispense with another box/cables etc.

The Headphone amp was clearer, more musical and controlled the bass better. I was a little surprised, but I guess thats why there are dedicated Headphone amps.
Devialet 200 -- Roon Nucleus-- Sonus Faber Olympica 2 -- Tellurium Q Black Speaker Cables --
Chord Qutest -- Niimbus US5 Pro Headphone amp —HifiMan HEK, Abyss 1266TC
Newcastle upon Tyne, England
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