07-Sep-2017, 19:29
What is wrong with the Olympica spikes?
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07-Sep-2017, 19:29
What is wrong with the Olympica spikes?
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07-Sep-2017, 19:30
(07-Sep-2017, 13:12)Bartype Wrote:Very nice! I like the contrast between the white and the wood of the floor and speakers, and the white 250 too. Is that a PV1 as well? I bet that fills out the bottom registers nicely.(07-Sep-2017, 02:39)Axel Wrote:(31-Aug-2017, 11:03)Bartype Wrote: I have used two slates of polished granite between the SO's and the wooden floor. The granite, one of the hardest affordable sorts of stone, decouple the SO's enough from the wooden floor. at least, enough in my case, and it looks good! Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control. Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp., Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable, Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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(07-Sep-2017, 13:28)Hifi_swlon Wrote:(30-Aug-2017, 20:14)Axel Wrote:(30-Aug-2017, 07:39)Hifi_swlon Wrote: I would 100% recommend you get a pair of isoscoustics Gaia feet on demo.I thought the same. The problem is that the spikes on the back of the SFs are much shorter than the front ones, leaning the speakers back for time alignment. If I used Gaias, the speakers would be level and it would look pretty horrible too IMHO. (07-Sep-2017, 19:29)iamwappie Wrote: What is wrong with the Olympica spikes? They don't isolate the speaker from the floor, so at higher volumes the bass is transferred into the suspended wooden floorboards under the carpet and booms. I can feel the vibration through my feet. The Gaias would effectively decouple the speaker from the floor making booming impossible. Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control. Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp., Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable, Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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08-Sep-2017, 08:52
(07-Sep-2017, 19:30)Axel Wrote:(07-Sep-2017, 13:12)Bartype Wrote:Very nice! I like the contrast between the white and the wood of the floor and speakers, and the white 250 too. Is that a PV1 as well? I bet that fills out the bottom registers nicely.(07-Sep-2017, 02:39)Axel Wrote: Sounds good! Any chance of a picture or two? Thank you! It's a PV1 indeed, but it's only used for surround, in my room the SOII's go more then low enough. I even have to use digital room correction with Roon to get rid of standing waves at 37 Hz...
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09-Sep-2017, 01:27
(08-Sep-2017, 19:30)iamwappie Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 00:53)Axel Wrote:(07-Sep-2017, 13:28)Hifi_swlon Wrote: Levelling-wise, I guess it depends how much difference - the Gaia's have a reasonable amount of thread and can be adjusted so you could have the front ones taller. Whether to the same extent or not you'd have to try. Interesting theory. Thanks. The way that my system is laid out, I haven't actually got any corners to put pillows into, strange as that may sound. I've got some Herbie's Spike Decoupling Gliders on their way to me, so I'll see if they make any difference. I'll let you know when I get them. Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control. Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp., Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable, Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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(09-Sep-2017, 01:27)Axel Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 19:30)iamwappie Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 00:53)Axel Wrote: They don't isolate the speaker from the floor, so at higher volumes the bass is transferred into the suspended wooden floorboards under the carpet and booms. I can feel the vibration through my feet. I have bass traps too, there´s no other way. I had a pair of Olll a couple of months ago, this room has brick floor but now i´m moving to a house with wooden floors, room completely different and i´m a bit curious/affraid about the sound there. I´m alert to your opinion about the spikes, even considering i have stand mount speakers.
09-Sep-2017, 23:34
(09-Sep-2017, 16:54)BoyScout Wrote:(09-Sep-2017, 01:27)Axel Wrote:(08-Sep-2017, 19:30)iamwappie Wrote: Don't know if the picture posted in an earlier post is the one with the booming issue but question is if the vibration you feel in the floor is caused by transfer via the spikes. I think another likely cause could be the bass energy concentration in the corners of the room 'leaking' into the wooden floor also. When you say wooden floor, do you mean a suspended floor with joists underneath floorboards or wooden laminate over concrete? If the latter, you should have no problems as long as you put a rug or something between you and the speakers. Project Eperience X Pack with Ortofon Rondo Red MC, Oppo BDP 105D, 2 x Sonos Connect, QNAP HS251+ NAS with 2 X 6TB Western Digital Red, Mac 5K 32GB running Lifetime Roon, iPad Pro 12.9" for remote control. Etalon Ethernet Isolator, Devialet 440 Pro CI, Sonus faber Olympica ll with Isoacoustics Gaia ll feet, Auralic Taurus Mkll headphone amp., Denon AH-D5000, Sennheiser HD600 and HD800 with Cardas cable, Van Den Hul The First Ultimate and Crystal interconnects, Furutech power cables, GSP Audio Spatia speaker cable.
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11-Sep-2017, 17:11
(09-Sep-2017, 23:34)Axel Wrote:(09-Sep-2017, 01:27)Axel Wrote: Interesting theory. Thanks. It´ll be wooden floating floor, in a near future, i have NOT great expectations about the result. I think i´ve a lot of trouble in front of me to solve after a "marvelous" period of moving ALL the house from this place to another. The system´s environment will be completely different. Years and years of sound tunning thrown away. My speakers arrived just two months ago, after almost a year trying different ones. Can you believe it? Now a different room...
11-Sep-2017, 18:31
I feel for you. Speaker positioning is an art and sometimes a trial on error art but for sure it takes a lot of time. When you finished positioning, a lot of time goes (or should go) into acoustic treatment. It's like buying a Ferrari and drive it in town but the real excitement is when driving it at a circuit. This is what acoustic treatment can do. If your lucky you may get away with furniture and carpets. If thats not the case there is always the not so 'make friends with your wife' stuff but boy does it make a difference.
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