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		Anyway, another forum member has advised me regarding good reports re Singxer products, allegedly better than Mutecs,  see below:http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html 
Also a USB to S/PDIF version getting rave reviews:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...84788.html 
Mutec beater for $179.99?? - Although I do think running AES is the best option for a Devialet
 
Does anyone know about this kit?  Anyone tried with a Devialet?
	
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		As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together.
	 
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		 (07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote:  As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together. 
Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html 
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		 (07-Jun-2016, 13:32)Confused Wrote:   (07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote:  As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together. Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
 
 http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
 
Totally missed that to, will check in to that. But I was thinking of geting the Mutec from Thomann and they have 30 day trial period.
	 
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		The Singxer products are heavily discussed in a (long) topic on head-fi.org. This one: http://www.head-fi.org/t/803111/xmos-xu2...as-arrived  It's the same thread I got part of my inspiration from to perhaps try a Focusrite Rednet device for Dante which I discussed in my system topic.
 
The 'being better part' is a bit more nuanced. The topic starter (much "crazier" than I am in trying stuff   ) has tried out the Mutec MC-3+ USB and has confirmed that the Mutec standalone is better than the Singxer F-1 (which is a DIY module for USB to S/PDIF conversion using the new XMOS chipset). He did prefer what he calls his "uber USB chain" over the Mutec. 
 
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He's all into Dante though right now using his Rednet 3 with Mutec MC-3+ USB as a S/PDIF re-clocker.
 
He also keeps a 'score list' (remember one guy, one system, one opinion):
 Quote:Singxer F-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCi/Pur2/GB Lan   190   $180+$150+$250 +$200+$100+$100+$479Singxer F-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCiPur/ iPur2  170   $180 +$150 +$250 +$200 +$100 + $100
 PUC2 Lite TeraDak DC30W/Cerious/Regen               135   $481 + $150 + $250 + Regen $175
 DXIO Silver/TeraDak DC-30W/Cerious                     130   $180 + $150 + $250
 Singxer X-1 DC30W/Cerious/Recovery/DCiPur/iPur2   125   $59 + $250 +Recovery $200 + iPur2 $100
 PUC2 Lite - USB power                                         110    $481
 Breeze/Cerious Graph/WBT RCA Nexgen                  109  Du modded $208 + CT GE $250
 Breeze DU-U8 with Cerious Graphene                     108   DU $168 + CT GE $250
 Breeze DU-U8 (Talema version)                             100   $168
 Breeze DU-U8 (BingZi version)                                95   $148
 Hydra Z with LPS                                                  92   Z $700 + $150 TeraDak DC30W
 Melodious MX-U8 (upgraded caps)                           85   $260
 Melodious MX-U8 (stock)                                        81   $247
 Gustard U12 (upgraded caps)                                  76   $175
 Gustard U12 stock                                                 72   $160
 iDAC DAC2 (used as a DDC)                                    65   $479
 Musiland USB3.0 US Dragon                                    65   $165
 M2Tech EVO with LPS                                             60  EVO $600 + Acopian LPS $280
 Audiophileo 2  USB Power                                       50  $495
 M2Tech Hiface                                                       40  $149
 
To which he's later added:
 
240 Rednet 3 with the Mutec MC-3+ USB as S/PDIF re-clocker 
210-220 Rednet 3
 
150 Mutec MC-3 USB with Cerious Graphene Extreme power cord and a separate PB4X4Pro running from the aR1p
	
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		I love reading what this guy (rb2013) and those surrounding him on head-fi write but he himself can at times be quite dismissive of stuff he hasn't tried yet, largely based on preconceptions. In the act he can spread misinformation as well. For example calling the microRendu a uPnP renderer while it is so much more.
	 
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		 (07-Jun-2016, 13:46)octaviars Wrote:   (07-Jun-2016, 13:32)Confused Wrote:   (07-Jun-2016, 13:22)octaviars Wrote:  As you say I think a Mutec with AES output to Devialet is a better option, I am really close to buying a Mutec and run it between my microRendu and D400. Cabledyne USB and AES cables will connect them together. Maybe my post was not as clear as it could have been, this one does have AES output......
 
 http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
 Totally missed that to, will check in to that. But I was thinking of geting the Mutec from Thomann and they have 30 day trial period.
 
I have exactly the same plan!    
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		 (07-Jun-2016, 13:12)Confused Wrote:  Anyway, another forum member has advised me regarding good reports re Singxer products, allegedly better than Mutecs,  see below:
 http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/...05919.html
 
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		Yes, rb2013's adventures are quite informative, especially his willingness to explore the frontiers. Never heard of Singxer or Rednet till his posts. 
 Interestingly, I have communicated with another Mutec MC3+ USB owner on another forum.
 
 He has modified the Mutec to accept an LPS and says that "As a USB to SPDIF convertor the F1 just delivers much more in every way compared to the [modified] Mutec ..."
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (07-Jun-2016, 14:24)nicoludio Wrote:  Yes, rb2013's adventures are quite informative, especially his willingness to explore the frontiers. Never heard of Singxer or Rednet till his posts. 
 Interestingly, I have communicated with another Mutec MC3+ USB owner on another forum.
 
 He has modified the Mutec to accept an LPS and says that "As a USB to SPDIF convertor the F1 just delivers much more in every way compared to the [modified] Mutec ..."
 
I'm guessing that other Mutec owner is 'Sligolad'!    I've read a similar thing from his hand. The Mutec could still prove worthwile though in the next "hit product" the Focusrite Rednet series.    I would love these guys to test it with a microRendu though, it may be a great surprise for them.
 
I just wrote to Confused in response to a PM that things are going so fast, today's best may as well no longer be so tomorrow. So anyone 'investing' in this type of gear should be prepared for that.    
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