Poll: Do you SAM and if so, how exactly do you choose to use it.
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SAM 100% all the time
31.53%
64 31.53%
SAM at a fixed % all the time
21.18%
43 21.18%
SAM all the time, but vary the percent
4.93%
10 4.93%
SAM all the time at 0%
3.94%
8 3.94%
Sometimes SAM on or off, but 100% if on
1.97%
4 1.97%
Sometimes SAM on or off, with fixed % if on
1.48%
3 1.48%
Sometimes SAM on or off, and vary the % if on
2.96%
6 2.96%
Sometimes SAM on or off, but 0% if on
0.49%
1 0.49%
I have SAM ready speakers but prefer SAM off at all times
9.36%
19 9.36%
I do not have SAM ready speakers
22.17%
45 22.17%
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Do you use SAM?
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Just to elaborate about my own findings in relation to SAM and without any attempt to contradict anyone, I have observed that SAM was :
  • negatively affecting the acoustic phase as mentioned above
  • significantly increasing the level of bass, which was not necessary desirable. To illustrate this last effect, here is a measurement made at the listening position with SAM (Red) and without SAM (blue). Please note that both curves are identical above 150 Hz, which was expected.
[img][Image: 813744SAMAmplitude.jpg][/img]

Having said that, I also observed that SAM was significantly improving the cleanliness of the bass of my speakers (B&W 802D3). These clean basses were also contributing to much enhanced transients brought to the system by the Ref-10.

So on my system, I made the necessary corrections in amplitude and in phase (frequency and time domains) in order to correct for the adverse effects mentioned above, and continue enjoying the very positive effects brought by SAM in conjunction with the Ref-10 on the coherence of the sound stage and the superb transients.

After correction, both amplitude and phase are good, and the adverse effects of SAM have been eliminated. There is no masking of HF by SAM enhanced bass.
[img][Image: 265183Aftercorrection.jpg][/img]
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Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 23-Dec-2016, 09:19
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Womaz - 23-Dec-2016, 09:29
RE: Do you use SAM? - by NickB - 23-Dec-2016, 10:49
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 23-Dec-2016, 11:13
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Soniclife - 23-Dec-2016, 11:42
RE: Do you use SAM? - by ogs - 23-Dec-2016, 11:47
RE: Do you use SAM? - by NickB - 23-Dec-2016, 12:01
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Vivialet - 23-Dec-2016, 16:26
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Sharone - 23-Dec-2016, 17:28
RE: Do you use SAM? - by iamwappie - 23-Dec-2016, 17:28
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 23-Dec-2016, 18:19
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 08-Jan-2017, 15:33
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Hifi_swlon - 24-Dec-2016, 00:52
RE: Do you use SAM? - by noir - 24-Dec-2016, 02:12
Do you use SAM? - by no32 - 25-Dec-2016, 01:02
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Axel - 25-Dec-2016, 03:34
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 25-Dec-2016, 03:45
RE: Do you use SAM? - by markush - 25-Dec-2016, 10:39
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 25-Dec-2016, 15:49
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Axel - 26-Dec-2016, 02:48
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Axel - 26-Dec-2016, 14:50
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Hifi_swlon - 26-Dec-2016, 16:50
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Axel - 27-Dec-2016, 02:04
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Rodney Gold - 26-Dec-2016, 07:47
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Sharone - 04-Jan-2017, 17:48
RE: Do you use SAM? - by maxijazz - 04-Jan-2017, 19:26
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 04-Jan-2017, 20:35
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 06-Jan-2017, 09:48
RE: Do you use SAM? - by iamwappie - 05-Jan-2017, 20:54
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Finn - 05-Jan-2017, 21:02
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 15-Jan-2017, 20:39
RE: Do you use SAM? - by markush - 15-Jan-2017, 21:40
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 15-Jan-2017, 22:14
RE: Do you use SAM? - by JohnnySix - 16-Jan-2017, 14:13
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Dr Tone - 16-Jan-2017, 14:22
RE: Do you use SAM? - by iamwappie - 16-Jan-2017, 14:19
Do you use SAM? - by kmjy - 07-Jul-2017, 08:54
RE: Do you use SAM? - by maxijazz - 07-Jul-2017, 12:53
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Filip_B1d - 08-Jul-2017, 10:52
Do you use SAM? - by BjornWiman - 24-Sep-2017, 05:34
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Jonas - 24-Sep-2017, 15:48
RE: Do you use SAM? - by tom539 - 24-Sep-2017, 16:06
RE: Do you use SAM? - by audio_engr - 24-Sep-2017, 21:59
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Vivialet - 25-Sep-2017, 15:23
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 25-Sep-2017, 17:16
RE: Do you use SAM? - by SwissBear - 25-Sep-2017, 20:25
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 26-Sep-2017, 09:48
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 26-Sep-2017, 10:47
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 26-Sep-2017, 12:47
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Jonas - 26-Sep-2017, 10:29
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Vivialet - 26-Sep-2017, 07:28
RE: Do you use SAM? - by SwissBear - 26-Sep-2017, 10:04
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Vivialet - 26-Sep-2017, 13:18
Do you use SAM? - by no32 - 26-Sep-2017, 13:30
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 26-Sep-2017, 13:43
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 26-Sep-2017, 21:34
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 02-Oct-2017, 03:24
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 02-Oct-2017, 12:17
RE: Do you use SAM? - by thumb5 - 26-Sep-2017, 14:00
RE: Do you use SAM? - by alphafox - 26-Sep-2017, 15:58
RE: Do you use SAM? - by SwissBear - 26-Sep-2017, 17:44
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 02-Oct-2017, 03:27
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 02-Oct-2017, 13:30
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 02-Oct-2017, 14:53
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 03-Oct-2017, 13:24
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 04-Oct-2017, 04:10
RE: Do you use SAM? - by brit - 04-Oct-2017, 10:31
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Confused - 04-Oct-2017, 12:56
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 04-Oct-2017, 13:52
RE: Do you use SAM? - by thumb5 - 07-Oct-2017, 17:20
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Soniclife - 02-Oct-2017, 17:43
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 02-Oct-2017, 21:17
RE: Do you use SAM? - by yabaVR - 03-Oct-2017, 07:25
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Pim - 03-Oct-2017, 08:24
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Morten - 13-Oct-2017, 20:42
RE: Do you use SAM? - by Finn - 13-Oct-2017, 20:59

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