14-Nov-2018, 02:16
Hi Confused and others!
That's right there in Münich: we all 5 Devialet chat guys (oké including my wife...., so 4?) heard the Vivid speakers with 2.500 Watts of devialet RMS pro channel on it. Quanta costa? About € 200.000. And therefore it was one of the worst sounds I've ever heard (For the money of course, and yes I am old.....). It is by far no match for our own sound at home: the latest full range ESL and as a point source! 9 full range elektrostatic rings activated a couple of ms after each other; giving a point source about 30 cm behind the speaker like the famous stone in the water and those rings....
That brings me to this Devialet Idea! In Münich this year you could also see a never existing Quad ESL: 100 cm wide and about 210 cm tall. It will never be produced: I asked and it was only meant to let the world know what is technically possible. My idea is: it is not the solution to devide the frequency range into sub, low, mid and highs (sounds bad, ears are very sensitive to timefaults), but produce an Expert with 9 Devialet 900 Watt amplifiers in it and build it into the footcase of this new ESL. With time compensation between the 9 amplifiers. The perfect point source speaker is born. The only problem is the placing; here in the Netherlands (or New York city, Hong Kong, Tokyo etc) most people do not have the room for such a sound solution. But in the countryside, Africa and the USA....?
By the way:
1. is a Quad elektrostatic speaker (the new ones, very different with older models and I have had them all since 1979) perfect? No and yes. Read the absolute sound review of the 2812 on the internet and my solution for a perfect speaker? I have activated DSP correction at 325Hz +5db 2.0 curve in Roon and voila. The perfect sound, because there is - compared with a dynamic speaker - almost no distortion. Nothing beats it below 100dbA.
2. Three years back I heard in Münich a R&R Phantom: Mosconi DSP D-amplifiers and Focal KR165 speakers. With the help of the nice legs of my wife we got into the Rolls Royce and now we have that sound build in, into one of my cars: a Skoda-superB stationwagon for only € 3.200. Supersound for the money, and looks already like this DSP Devialet technology here mentioned! The next thing will be: devialet into the car; read my lips. SUPER
3. Out of the subject: just curious whether outside the Netherlands somebody has read about the Dutch judge who has condemned Pathé International this week for the payment of the ex-CFO of Pathé Netherlands (7 months à € 13.500). He was fired on the job in May. The (so-called) CEO fraud in Paris all started with an e-mail on march5th 2018 and ended in june with the payment of €19.200.000 to criminals........(for buying a secret company in Dubai). No Pathé personal was involved, but I immediately searched: our ex-Pathe CEO started on March 6 2018 within Devialet. A coincidence. But not nice for 100%: the Dutch judge has said the Pathé organisation was lacking internal controls and people were not educating to recognize CEO fraude. When I read the complete court decision I was thinking: the software planning of Devialet with its critical paths is much more complicated then executing internal controls against CEO fraud these days.... But oke: I am a financial auditor so that's my profession.
All by all I am incredible happy with my Devialet 220PRo. And sold 3 years back my Quad 24 pré and 80 power-tubes. As a Quadie! And now my tip: I bought almost 2 years ago a woowee adapter (NY, internet in 5 days, Paris, Frankfurt, A'dam) to fed the signal of this super amplifier into my Stax headphones and I have never, never heard the Stax's better. At home, at dealers and in Münich: 007Tube-800T even-SR009 no way. Funny. Oke, shielded speakercable and wbt's are not cheap, but the Devialet delivers!
That's right there in Münich: we all 5 Devialet chat guys (oké including my wife...., so 4?) heard the Vivid speakers with 2.500 Watts of devialet RMS pro channel on it. Quanta costa? About € 200.000. And therefore it was one of the worst sounds I've ever heard (For the money of course, and yes I am old.....). It is by far no match for our own sound at home: the latest full range ESL and as a point source! 9 full range elektrostatic rings activated a couple of ms after each other; giving a point source about 30 cm behind the speaker like the famous stone in the water and those rings....
That brings me to this Devialet Idea! In Münich this year you could also see a never existing Quad ESL: 100 cm wide and about 210 cm tall. It will never be produced: I asked and it was only meant to let the world know what is technically possible. My idea is: it is not the solution to devide the frequency range into sub, low, mid and highs (sounds bad, ears are very sensitive to timefaults), but produce an Expert with 9 Devialet 900 Watt amplifiers in it and build it into the footcase of this new ESL. With time compensation between the 9 amplifiers. The perfect point source speaker is born. The only problem is the placing; here in the Netherlands (or New York city, Hong Kong, Tokyo etc) most people do not have the room for such a sound solution. But in the countryside, Africa and the USA....?
By the way:
1. is a Quad elektrostatic speaker (the new ones, very different with older models and I have had them all since 1979) perfect? No and yes. Read the absolute sound review of the 2812 on the internet and my solution for a perfect speaker? I have activated DSP correction at 325Hz +5db 2.0 curve in Roon and voila. The perfect sound, because there is - compared with a dynamic speaker - almost no distortion. Nothing beats it below 100dbA.
2. Three years back I heard in Münich a R&R Phantom: Mosconi DSP D-amplifiers and Focal KR165 speakers. With the help of the nice legs of my wife we got into the Rolls Royce and now we have that sound build in, into one of my cars: a Skoda-superB stationwagon for only € 3.200. Supersound for the money, and looks already like this DSP Devialet technology here mentioned! The next thing will be: devialet into the car; read my lips. SUPER
3. Out of the subject: just curious whether outside the Netherlands somebody has read about the Dutch judge who has condemned Pathé International this week for the payment of the ex-CFO of Pathé Netherlands (7 months à € 13.500). He was fired on the job in May. The (so-called) CEO fraud in Paris all started with an e-mail on march5th 2018 and ended in june with the payment of €19.200.000 to criminals........(for buying a secret company in Dubai). No Pathé personal was involved, but I immediately searched: our ex-Pathe CEO started on March 6 2018 within Devialet. A coincidence. But not nice for 100%: the Dutch judge has said the Pathé organisation was lacking internal controls and people were not educating to recognize CEO fraude. When I read the complete court decision I was thinking: the software planning of Devialet with its critical paths is much more complicated then executing internal controls against CEO fraud these days.... But oke: I am a financial auditor so that's my profession.
All by all I am incredible happy with my Devialet 220PRo. And sold 3 years back my Quad 24 pré and 80 power-tubes. As a Quadie! And now my tip: I bought almost 2 years ago a woowee adapter (NY, internet in 5 days, Paris, Frankfurt, A'dam) to fed the signal of this super amplifier into my Stax headphones and I have never, never heard the Stax's better. At home, at dealers and in Münich: 007Tube-800T even-SR009 no way. Funny. Oke, shielded speakercable and wbt's are not cheap, but the Devialet delivers!
1: Atelier d'Or no.75 (1.5m. AQ RCA-XLR), 
2812 QuadESL.nl, Kimber 8TC, WBT, Rel StentorII, Oppo105D (surround), Vodafone Next, Quad 303.2(!Quadrepair.nl), Kef RDM1, BenQW4000i, SBooster (3x), IfiX 3x, 125 inch, Stax 507 (2x) on Stax SRM-1S, SRM D-50, all on Iso-Ac. Gaia1, 2 and 3, Kemp Isolator source and power-, Kemp QA/ SNS plugs (6x), Furutech & ALAC maincables, AQ Blizzard, Van den Hul Mainstream, Optical 8k cables, Clearaudio (Synchro+Champion2+TT3 tangential+CM Bearing+Outer Limit+StradivariV2, 530uV, 200 ohms), NUC11 i7, Samsung-980Pro, -A8, -S24Ultra, Roon Life, Netgear 108, AQ Cinnamon all, Live cable USB, AQ jitterbug 5x, WB 18TB 2x
2: 220Pro, Kef R3, Rel Studio, Oppo103EU (surround), Quad 707(mod), Kef RDM2, all on Iso Acoustics 200, Gaia 3 & 1, LG Oled55, Furutech wall outlets(3x), AQ NRG-Z3 (2m., 5x), Kemp powerstrips, Audiotool filters, Oppo HA2+PM3 + AQ cinnamon cables
1900 recorded LP's 24/192, 850 DSD 5.1 SACD (via Oppo), 4800 ripped CD's, Qubuz
2812 QuadESL.nl, Kimber 8TC, WBT, Rel StentorII, Oppo105D (surround), Vodafone Next, Quad 303.2(!Quadrepair.nl), Kef RDM1, BenQW4000i, SBooster (3x), IfiX 3x, 125 inch, Stax 507 (2x) on Stax SRM-1S, SRM D-50, all on Iso-Ac. Gaia1, 2 and 3, Kemp Isolator source and power-, Kemp QA/ SNS plugs (6x), Furutech & ALAC maincables, AQ Blizzard, Van den Hul Mainstream, Optical 8k cables, Clearaudio (Synchro+Champion2+TT3 tangential+CM Bearing+Outer Limit+StradivariV2, 530uV, 200 ohms), NUC11 i7, Samsung-980Pro, -A8, -S24Ultra, Roon Life, Netgear 108, AQ Cinnamon all, Live cable USB, AQ jitterbug 5x, WB 18TB 2x2: 220Pro, Kef R3, Rel Studio, Oppo103EU (surround), Quad 707(mod), Kef RDM2, all on Iso Acoustics 200, Gaia 3 & 1, LG Oled55, Furutech wall outlets(3x), AQ NRG-Z3 (2m., 5x), Kemp powerstrips, Audiotool filters, Oppo HA2+PM3 + AQ cinnamon cables
1900 recorded LP's 24/192, 850 DSD 5.1 SACD (via Oppo), 4800 ripped CD's, Qubuz
