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Devialet and USB cables
#1
Hello guys

What are Your opinions about USB cables and Devialet? Did You tried any expensive models?

I have a simple no name USB cable that I received as a package when I bought some DAC three years ago. This cable works very well with my Devialet nad laptop. I tried very expensive model of Transparent Premium USB and I preferred my stock USB cable because of sound openess.
But today I tried Audioquest Diamond and this is first cable that made me thinking;-)
Do You have any experiences with Diamond? Any opinions?
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#2
(27-May-2014, 23:53)moreno1973 Wrote: Hello guys

What are Your opinions about USB cables and Devialet? Did You tried any expensive models?

I have a simple no name USB cable that I received as a package when I bought some DAC three years ago. This cable works very well with my Devialet nad laptop. I tried very expensive model of Transparent Premium USB and I preferred my stock USB cable because of sound openess.
But today I tried Audioquest Diamond and this is first cable that made me thinking;-)
Do You have any experiences with Diamond? Any opinions?

My only experience with USB was using a Transparent Performance cable which isn't an expensive model compared to some! It sounded pretty good to me, I think at the time I thought it was pretty close to streaming via my UPnP setup (Moon MiND 180 connected to NAS via ethernet network).

In the latest issue of Hifi News (July) there's a group test of USB cables from £10-£999. Interestingly the Audioquest Forest USB which costs £35/1.5M scores the same (80) as the new Light Harmonic Lightspeed USB (80) which costs £999/1.6M. The winners are Nordost Blue Heaven USB 2.0 which scores 83 and costs £265/2M and Chord's Signature Tuned Aray which scores 85 and costs £400/1M.

Regarding the Audioquest Diamond with DBS I can well believe it! More on this later! Wink

Guillaume
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O d'A no.63, Absolare Integrated Signature, totaldac d1 server with additional external power supply, totaldac d1-six, Wilson Audio Sasha 2, Transparent Ref XL digital cables, Transparent XL Gen 5 speaker cables, Ansuz Diamond Darkz, Shunyata mains cable prototypes, Shunyata Denali D6000/S, Shunyata Venom RCA, Audioquest Diamond Ethernet, Various Entreq ground boxes and cables, AQVOX Audiophile High-End Network Switch, sonicTransporter w/ 1TB SSD & MCRU LPS
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#3
Haven't tested yet myself but am also very curious as to what everyone is using/has tested. I myself have my eyes on the Audioquest and Nordost USB cables (they've recently released the Heimdall 2 USB cable BTW). Also interesting to me are the iFi Audio Micro iUSBPower product (http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/micro-iusbpower/) as it can isolate grounds and provide clean USB power and their Gemini 'two headed' USB cable which splits power and signal (http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-gemini/).

Does anyone yet if the Devialet's USB input needs the power pins connected?

(PS: I checked USB2.0 cannot yet be galvanically isolated in full there are simply no devices/chipsets etc. available for that purpose. The ethernet input of the Devialet is isolated by the TDK chip on the board)
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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#4
Chord silver screen for me. If you read that Hifi News review they actually concede that they prefer it anyway. It is fairly cheap too!
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#5
I'm using the audioquest diamond.
I'm very happy with it. Added detail, soundstage and clearer sound.
It's clearly better than a standard cable.
Devialet 400, Crystal Cable link, Kimber Kable Monocle XL, B&W 802 Diamond.
Rega RP8, Rega Apheta 2.
Naim powerlines, Totaldac USB cable.
Hot Rod Audio PC (Paul Pang: OCXO super SSD 64GB, V3 OCXO USB card) ).
120w Paul Pang dual rail linear psu for MB and processor. Teddy Pardo Linear PSU for V3 USB card. Bakoon BPS-02 for OCXO super SSD.
Win 8.1 (minimal services running), ROON, JRiver, JRemote.
Qnap NAS TS-459 Pro+.
Acousense GISO GB Lan Isolator
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#6
(28-May-2014, 15:49)Antoine Wrote: <cut>

Does anyone yet if the Devialet's USB input needs the power pins connected?

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I can answer my own question since I've tested it using my new motherboard for which you can configure to cut the power in USB. The Devialet needs the USB ground active. It can do without an active +5V power from the source.
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital/Lessloss DFPC Signature/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, Roon, SoTM sMS-200, Curious USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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#7
Wow, just got my Totaldac USB cable. Surprised by how immediate and noticeable the difference was. Will blind test it with some friends, but at first listen it seemed to cut out a lot of glare/high frequency hardness and to make individual musical lines much more prominent. Listening to the astonishing new version of Nozze by Currentzis with great delight. Then on to Coltrane Live at the VV.
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SYSTEM 2: Antipodes DX Roon Server// microRendu Roon Ready // Devialet 220//German Physiks Unlimited II//German Physiks Speaker Cables
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#8
Nice. I've been seriously tempted by the Totaldac USB cable but I'm still umming and aahing over a source so not sure what to go with, and already have a very nice SPDIF cable which I ought to use somehow!
Devialet 200, Melco N1A, Rega RP6/Exact, Raidho C-1.1, grounding boxes.
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#9
I'm a cable skeptic mostly, especially speaker cables which I think are often a bizarre impedance matching racket. But I do think there's reasons to think that jitter effects sound, and my ears seem to agree! But yeah definitely hold off if you aren't sure about USB!
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SYSTEM 2: Antipodes DX Roon Server// microRendu Roon Ready // Devialet 220//German Physiks Unlimited II//German Physiks Speaker Cables
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#10
I've checked Tellurium Black Diamond, JCat, Synergestic Research Active, Audioquest Diamond, Entreq Konstantin with Minimus and Silver Ertha, which was very similar to Totaldac, which is my choice. AQ is good, but Totaldac is better. SR is also worth to try, it is fast, bright cable with great sounstage. Totaldac connects Auralic Aries with Devialet.
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