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The review was very old one and has since many iterations of firmware updates. I enjoy the music even when I was playing it at -45dB. And what kind of support do you expect for Roon for Devialer? If you are expecting the amp to be RoonReady, there are none.
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(24-Apr-2016, 21:28)hk6230 Wrote: The review was very old one and has since many iterations of firmware updates. I enjoy the music even when I was playing it at -45dB. And what kind of support do you expect for Roon for Devialer? If you are expecting the amp to be RoonReady, there are none.
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hk6230 is quite right; as usual.
Devialet can't be bothered to support even their own software; they certainly won't entertain Roon in a hurry.
I would spend your money on something else. The sound quality is sublime, but the customer support is zero.
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This topic has been hashed over before. It is not a 'problem' particular to Devialet. And there is a loudness feature which you can set up in the configurator, and assign a button to. The contour boosts some frequencies, compensating in part for the way ears hear at different sound pressure levels.
The same principle was considered to be a part in the Audioquest cable controversy; the more expensive cables were apparently demonstrated at increasing volumes, albeit slight increases. The natural subjective reaction is that 'louder' is 'better'.
Compared to my two previous Naim systems, the D120 is very good at low volumes. My ears, my music, my system, my setting.
And lets not confuse the desire of some to have integration of Roon with a lack of customer support. Totally different issue.
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(24-Apr-2016, 22:40)Damon Wrote: And there is a loudness feature which you can set up in the configurator, and assign a button to. The contour boosts some frequencies, compensating in part for the way ears hear at different sound pressure levels.
Are you talking ICM? Not really the same thing as a stereotypical loudness button.
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Totally agreed with Damon on Roon integration desirability and lack of support. Total different issue.
@ Damon, cool avatar.
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(24-Apr-2016, 21:48)Zappydev Wrote: (24-Apr-2016, 21:28)hk6230 Wrote: The review was very old one and has since many iterations of firmware updates. I enjoy the music even when I was playing it at -45dB. And what kind of support do you expect for Roon for Devialer? If you are expecting the amp to be RoonReady, there are none.
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hk6230 is quite right; as usual.
Devialet can't be bothered to support even their own software; they certainly won't entertain Roon in a hurry.
I would spend your money on something else. The sound quality is sublime, but the customer support is zero.
I'm quite happy with Devialet's support actually. Like most of you, I only wish AIR can be fixed once and for all, instead of us trying out tweaks to make it work.
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Glad I'm not the only hearing the low volume problem. It's the digital volume control that's the culprit. This is not something you can fix with firmware updates.
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Respectfully Duomike - why do you think its a digital volume control issue? I don't believe "bits" are being dropped on the floor when at lower volumes. It may be less impactful at lower volumes ( I have had other systems with the same phenomena ) but for altogether different reasons, as mentioned earlier in this thread.
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I know other amps have the same problem but for a different reason. Friend of mine got the amazing Kharma db 11 s speaker driven by a 750/4 ohmsSteve Mccormack amp. Sounds amazing at high volume levels but sounds collapses at lower volumes. Told him its a brute force amp. Guess this a problem with many high power ss amps.
Another friends got sashas driven by a 60 watt Zhesto tube amp. This amp sounds amazing even at whisper levels.
My previous amp,a tact millenium, converted pcm directly to pwm. Outputstage traditional class d which means it switches a constant voltage on and off. It has a very smart volume control. It reduces the voltage which is beeing switched! No loss of resolution even at mwatt levels. At low volumes it was better than the dev but at medium to high levels the dev is a bit better.
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Pim, leaving the amp on since 2 days. Definetively sounds better, more musical and emotionally involving. Thanks for the tip! Not daring to leave my mini on 24/7. Its power supply got big heatsinks which get even hotter than the dev plus in this part of the world accasionally there are power cuts. Not good for a computer's hd i guess.
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