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(08-Jun-2025, 23:01)Delija Wrote: (08-Jun-2025, 07:49)iamwappie Wrote: (19-May-2025, 15:21)tategoi Wrote: Qobuz Connect is the holy grail in music streaming. At least for the sake of rebuilding its reputation Devialet should make it available to the Expert line.
Why is that? Other than the HiRes part, is the lossless quality better than Tidal?
Yes, it is. Qobuz sounds considerably better.
But Qobuz we could already add as a service for years via Roon. What's the fuzz on Qobuz connect? Just that you can control the Devialet from the Qobuz app?
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(09-Jun-2025, 19:42)iamwappie Wrote: (08-Jun-2025, 23:01)Delija Wrote: (08-Jun-2025, 07:49)iamwappie Wrote: Why is that? Other than the HiRes part, is the lossless quality better than Tidal?
Yes, it is. Qobuz sounds considerably better.
But Qobuz we could already add as a service for years via Roon. What's the fuzz on Qobuz connect? Just that you can control the Devialet from the Qobuz app? Two points I think:
1) If you don't have (or want) Roon, it would be a great way to stream to your Expert/Expert Pro. My understanding is that this is even more in demand given issues with AIR.
2) While Qobuz via Roon sounds great to my ears, I have heard that streaming via Qobuz Connect sounds even better. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to check that out.
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As I use a Wattson digital streamer along with my 440-Pro, and Wattson is Qobus Connect listed, I was able to use Qobus Connect and compare against my standard Roon based streaming.
Qobus Connect does sound impressive that focusses high on clarity with a more immediate and big holographic soundstage. On prolonged listening sessions, I found the transparency vs. musicality lean towards more clarity whereas thru Roon, it was better balanced for my listening preference. Thus, I've reverted back to Roon and preferences may differ as audio is subjective.
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(10-Jun-2025, 14:46)audio_engr Wrote: As I use a Wattson digital streamer along with my 440-Pro, and Wattson is Qobus Connect listed, I was able to use Qobus Connect and compare against my standard Roon based streaming.
Qobus Connect does sound impressive that focusses high on clarity with a more immediate and big holographic soundstage. On prolonged listening sessions, I found the transparency vs. musicality lean towards more clarity whereas thru Roon, it was better balanced for my listening preference. Thus, I've reverted back to Roon and preferences may differ as audio is subjective.
This is very system dependent, depending on your Roon setup and whole streamer setup, actually it also depends on the phone that you use for Qobuz Connect.
I haven't tried Qobuz Connect, for Tidal Connect the model of phone you use does have influence on the sound output. Actually, even on my friend's Roon setup, the phone controlling the Roon playback still affects the sound. There will be less of a difference if you use iPhone as all are about the same. Android phones differ a lot more between different models and brands.
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You can turn off the phone during reproduction - that much influence it has
BTW, Roon is inferior even to UPnP - on Devialet and literally all streamers I have heard, not just in my system.
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(12-Jun-2025, 03:47)ray1234 Wrote: (10-Jun-2025, 14:46)audio_engr Wrote: As I use a Wattson digital streamer along with my 440-Pro, and Wattson is Qobus Connect listed, I was able to use Qobus Connect and compare against my standard Roon based streaming.
Qobus Connect does sound impressive that focusses high on clarity with a more immediate and big holographic soundstage. On prolonged listening sessions, I found the transparency vs. musicality lean towards more clarity whereas thru Roon, it was better balanced for my listening preference. Thus, I've reverted back to Roon and preferences may differ as audio is subjective.
This is very system dependent, depending on your Roon setup and whole streamer setup, actually it also depends on the phone that you use for Qobuz Connect.
I haven't tried Qobuz Connect, for Tidal Connect the model of phone you use does have influence on the sound output. Actually, even on my friend's Roon setup, the phone controlling the Roon playback still affects the sound. There will be less of a difference if you use iPhone as all are about the same. Android phones differ a lot more between different models and brands.
I use a dedicated iPad Pro 11-inch running iOS 18.5 with mostly all services disabled except Roon, Devialet Volume monitor, Qobus and Wattson. The internet connection to the iPad is Ethernet wired (not WiFi). I've used both Qobus Connect & Wattson to directly stream but much prefer the Roon. As I said earlier, "Audio is subjective" and each to his own!
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