Devialet Chat

I saw some of the new Transparent generation 5 products at a hifi show this last weekend, I think the ultra and up levels should be out now in aug/sept some time.

(23-Sep-2014, 16:14)Ekmanc Wrote: [ -> ]I saw some of the new Transparent generation 5 products at a hifi show this last weekend, I think the ultra and up levels should be out now in aug/sept some time.

Cool. I must admit I'm very intrigued by the new gen 5 TA XL speaker cables. I auditioned the previous generation Ultra and Reference cables in my system but found my Chord Sarums performed substantially better. The TA Reference XL cables however are in another league altogether (I compared them back to back with the standard Reference ones in another system and there was a big jump in SQ between the two) so it would be interesting to compare the new TA XLs to my current cables.

Guillaume

According to the Transparent rep the new Ultra is almost as good as the old Ref so it seems to be a pretty large leap. This is the first time in many years that they've changed everything in their cables and not just the filters.

The new XLs are probably killer cables!

(23-Sep-2014, 14:39)Ekmanc Wrote: [ -> ]

(22-Sep-2014, 21:37)mauidan Wrote: [ -> ]

(21-Sep-2014, 08:12)Morten Wrote: [ -> ]That is interesting, did the dealer elaborate?

My cables is around two years old, it replaced some cheaper xindak cables, on the existing set up (Plinius SA-103 and PS audio perfect wave mk2) it was significant improvement.

I must admit I am puzzled if there should be any reason that Devialet should not work well with network cables? Perhaps it only have an impact if you are using SAM?

Kind regards Morten

My dealer pointed out that Devialet monitors what’s going on at the speaker terminals, and a cable network might be interfering with that process.

I'm not a huge fan of networked cables but that sounds like utter BS to be honest.

I'm betting this was a dealer that doesn't sell networked cables.

You lost your bet, the dealer who told me to try a non-networked cable sells MIT.

Before calling it BS, have you compared networked and non-networked cables on your Devialet?

Does Devialet used networked cables in their demo rooms or at trade shows?

(23-Sep-2014, 17:03)mauidan Wrote: [ -> ]

(23-Sep-2014, 14:39)Ekmanc Wrote: [ -> ]

(22-Sep-2014, 21:37)mauidan Wrote: [ -> ]

(21-Sep-2014, 08:12)Morten Wrote: [ -> ]That is interesting, did the dealer elaborate?

My cables is around two years old, it replaced some cheaper xindak cables, on the existing set up (Plinius SA-103 and PS audio perfect wave mk2) it was significant improvement.

I must admit I am puzzled if there should be any reason that Devialet should not work well with network cables? Perhaps it only have an impact if you are using SAM?

Kind regards Morten

My dealer pointed out that Devialet monitors what’s going on at the speaker terminals, and a cable network might be interfering with that process.

I'm not a huge fan of networked cables but that sounds like utter BS to be honest.

I'm betting this was a dealer that doesn't sell networked cables.

You lost your bet, the dealer who told me to try a non-networked cable sells MIT.

Before calling it BS, have you compared networked and non-networked cables on your Devialet?

Does Devialet used networked cables in their demo rooms or at trade shows?

Yep I currently have Nordost Frey 2s but I've tried both Transparent Super MM2 and Reference MM2 with my Devialet and both the networked cables sound great, absolutely no problem with Devialet at all.

As for what Devialet themselves use they've been very tight-lipped about that and probably for good reason.

(23-Sep-2014, 14:39)Ekmanc Wrote: [ -> ]Yep I currently have Nordost Frey 2s but I've tried both Transparent Super MM2 and Reference MM2 with my Devialet and both the networked cables sound great, absolutely no problem with Devialet at all.

As for what Devialet themselves use they've been very tight-lipped about that and probably for good reason.

Since you stay with the Nordost, I guess the Transparent didn't complement your Devialet any better.

Earlier this year I tried some Reference MM2s which were tuned for my speakers and other amp. Nice sound, but I didn't feel they were worth the asking price.

(23-Sep-2014, 20:11)mauidan Wrote: [ -> ]

(23-Sep-2014, 14:39)Ekmanc Wrote: [ -> ]Yep I currently have Nordost Frey 2s but I've tried both Transparent Super MM2 and Reference MM2 with my Devialet and both the networked cables sound great, absolutely no problem with Devialet at all.

As for what Devialet themselves use they've been very tight-lipped about that and probably for good reason.

Since you stay with the Nordost, I guess the Transparent didn't complement your Devialet any better.

Earlier this year I tried some Reference MM2s which were tuned for my speakers and other amp. Nice sound, but I didn't feel they were worth the asking price.

Just like you say the Reference were really good but at about 4 times the price of my Nordosts I didn't quite feel that it was worth it.

I have high hopes for their new generation 5 cables though, a pair of Ultra or Reference will quite likely find a home here.

(22-Sep-2014, 21:37)mauidan Wrote: [ -> ]

(21-Sep-2014, 08:12)Morten Wrote: [ -> ]That is interesting, did the dealer elaborate?

My cables is around two years old, it replaced some cheaper xindak cables, on the existing set up (Plinius SA-103 and PS audio perfect wave mk2) it was significant improvement.

I must admit I am puzzled if there should be any reason that Devialet should not work well with network cables? Perhaps it only have an impact if you are using SAM?

Kind regards Morten

My dealer pointed out that Devialet monitors what’s going on at the speaker terminals, and a cable network might be interfering with that process.

Actually this is interesting... Could a speaker cable with a Zobel network impact on the effectiveness of SAM? Or put another way... do TA account for SAM when optimising their reference-level speaker cables?

Guillaume

Why would it affect anything? it's not like the transparent filter changes the frequency output of the speaker cable.

I'm baffled by all this! Perhaps someone can explain in simple terms? For what it's worth, my Dev is running off 8 meters of Ethernet cable and sounds superb. (In my current set up the PC is 6 meters away from the amp). Admittedly, it may not be as optimal as a short high quality cable, but it does work as it should.