(05-Jul-2016, 20:44)rik Wrote: [ -> ]Would love to be able to go from a D120 to a D200pro (& obviously pay the extra).
Rik
(09-Jul-2016, 10:23)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]So if I upgrade my former D-Premier again (after merely two years, so still 4 years of warranty on it) I'll have a 250 Pro in an old case that would then, after merely 4,5 years, have cost a total of €11900+3500+3500 to 4500 (250->250 Pro upgrade price currently not known so a wild guess)=18,900 to 19,900 and is then virtually identical to a 240 Pro which'll cost, what 8-9k?
No thank you, I don't see how I could justify that. There's too little value gained in these specific, merely incremental, upgrades for me.
I agree, for the early adopter this is a big let down. At least they should offer the chance to upgrade from 250 to 1000pro (buying a companion) at a very good price. And not I am not talking 15% discount here....
(09-Jul-2016, 12:05)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ] (09-Jul-2016, 11:00)Pim van Vliet Wrote: [ -> ] (09-Jul-2016, 10:23)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]So if I upgrade my former D-Premier again (after merely two years, so still 4 years of warranty on it) I'll have a 250 Pro in an old case that would then, after merely 4,5 years, have cost a total of €11900+3500+3500 to 4500 (250->250 Pro upgrade price currently not known so a wild guess)=18,900 to 19,900 and is then virtually identical to a 240 Pro which'll cost, what 8-9k?
No thank you, I don't see how I could justify that. There's too little value gained in these specific, merely incremental, upgrades for me.
Clearly the early adopters are a lot worse off than the late ones. As is often the case. I can't see how Devialet can justify having a 240Pro in a 120 case and a 250Pro in a D-premier case with such a huge price difference. I even like the look of the 120 case better. In chrome that is. Not in Rose gold...that looks awesome 
Yep, buying new and early is expensive. Especially from a young brand with an undiversified product range. Unfortunately they've also proven to be unreliable and unpredictable.
The focus here clearly lies on generating new business and perhaps they can milk some of the current 120/200 owners one more time.
One more time being the operative words here I believe. Once there's a stable (And that's to be seen) streaming facility in the Pro, I don't see any way an upgrade would make the product more interesting. Then again, it is Devialet and they have come up with some out there stuff.
As of now, the lineup will be 130 / 220 / 440 / 1000 Pro (no idea about the existing 250).
Using the 120 to upgrade to 220 Pro would be more cost effective. 120 / 200 upgrade cost to 220 Pro would be the same but obviously the cost of 120 would be lower.
So D200 owners paid €2000 more compared to the D120 and both can be upgraded to the same model for the same price. I'm sure this'll please the owners of their most popular D200 model. Devialet logic...you gotta love it..LOL
(09-Jul-2016, 12:26)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]So D200 owners paid €2000 more compared to the D120 and both can be upgraded to the same model for the same price. I'm sure this'll please the owners of their most popular D200 model. Devialet logic...you gotta love it..LOL
They might charge a little bit more for the 120 upgrade because customers get more too. That would make sense....and therefore probably won't happen.
(09-Jul-2016, 12:35)Pim van Vliet Wrote: [ -> ] (09-Jul-2016, 12:26)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]So D200 owners paid €2000 more compared to the D120 and both can be upgraded to the same model for the same price. I'm sure this'll please the owners of their most popular D200 model. Devialet logic...you gotta love it..LOL
They might charge a little bit more for the 120 upgrade because customers get more too. That would make sense....and therefore probably won't happen.
Thus far we've seen about three people having heard the upgrade cost will be the same for both the 120 and 200 to this 'new' 220Pro model or whatever Apple like name (Plus, Pro, +) they're giving it. (about €3500)
(09-Jul-2016, 12:45)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ] (09-Jul-2016, 12:35)Pim van Vliet Wrote: [ -> ] (09-Jul-2016, 12:26)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]So D200 owners paid €2000 more compared to the D120 and both can be upgraded to the same model for the same price. I'm sure this'll please the owners of their most popular D200 model. Devialet logic...you gotta love it..LOL
They might charge a little bit more for the 120 upgrade because customers get more too. That would make sense....and therefore probably won't happen.
Thus far we've seen about three people having heard the upgrade cost will be the same for both the 120 and 200 to this 'new' 220Pro model or whatever Apple like name (Plus, Pro, +) they're giving it. (about €3500)
Hmmm. Sell D200: 4150 Euro. Upgrade D200: 3500 Euro. Difference: 7650 Euro. That's A$ 11170 at today's exchange rate. That's more than what I paid for it. That streamer would have to be some terrific kind of kit for me to want to upgrade to that, just for a bedroom system.
A streamer product requires top notch software for a good user experience so I wouldn't wait for Devialet to release one. Not if they make it themselves anyway.
Otoh, imagine if you were a 120 owner who paid the same price and "only" got a 130 Pro. Doubt that many will upgrade.
(09-Jul-2016, 13:35)nicoludio Wrote: [ -> ]Otoh, imagine if you were a 120 owner who paid the same price and "only" got a 130 Pro. Doubt that many will upgrade.
Which again proves the point they're looking at this from a sales point of view only.
Just looking at a wattage point of view BTW, I'm wondering how many people realize that to have a 3dB power output increase (which only equates to a x1.41 SPL increase) you'd need double the power (wattage). So a 10W or 40W power increase on top is insignificant.
For the 800/1000 it's worse. At least the 800 still only has a 600W SMPS PSU inside so these 800/1000W figures are false or short term at best. The 4000W peak power figures they're boasting are even shorter term. It's all marketing BS.