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Just did the update and listening. Sounds way better. Dynamic range has improved. It really feels like a veil has been lifted. Could it be placebo? Will need more listening...

(06-May-2015, 11:20)superstock Wrote: [ -> ]Is it me but one on it's own sounds very satisfying? Connected my stereo pair up yesterday and delighted with the sound, never heard a speaker with such dynamics detail and control (what is that >1ohm bass driver). Maybe too good and probably better than the stuff used to mix the recordings and inevitable EQ boost/compensation applied for the studio monitors failings.
They say when you upgrade its "like lifting a veil from the speakers", I might need that veil back!! Awesome I think, but I'm not used to it yet but a hell of a lot of fun.

Yes Phantom is great speaker no doubt. I love mine very much.


Still you must know that serious professional recording studios do have great monitoring sometimes ...
You can see in the picture below the 4 way active horn loaded system which is installed in one of my studios. It clearly outperforms Phantom which is fairly normal considering each speaker is 1000 liters, weight > 150 kg and costs 15 times the price of a Phantom.


What is fantastic about Phantom is that it reaches an unprecedented level of quality for such a small enclosure and price. Phantom clearly disrupts heavily the hierarchy of audio systems, but there are still better systems and some of them are in recording studios

Maybe I was getting a bit carried away

Since 1.1.2 now cannot play files o ER, 96khz without breakup a few minutes into each track. This is corrected by pausing then playing again. I wish they could get a handle on this issue it really makes the experience unpleasant

Spark update 1.1.3 still does not solve local file sometimes not playing with a PC and still not able to create an account through Spark. However more album covers are showing in the menu :-)
Dialog and Phantom upgrade to 1.1.2.0 seems to produce a more dynamic sound. Upgrade worked only after updating Spark to 1.1.3

(06-May-2015, 20:39)fcs Wrote: [ -> ]Spark update 1.1.3 still does not solve local file sometimes not playing with a PC and still not able to create an account through Spark. However more album covers are showing in the menu :-)
Dialog and Phantom upgrade to 1.1.2.0 seems to produce a more dynamic sound. Upgrade worked only after updating Spark to 1.1.3

Where did you get it?
Devialet's website (www.devialet.com/spark) lists the Windows version as 1.1.3 but the download button actually points to 1.1.0 and modifying the download address from http://www.devialet.com/softs/Spark-1.1.0.exe to http://www.devialet.com/softs/Spark-1.1.3.exe results in a 404 error...

Even with Spark 1.1.0 I haven't had any issues with local files since firmware 1.1.2.0, which certainly was not the case beforehand.

Just received an email from Devialet

OSX Spark can be found at http://devialet.us4.list-manage.com/trac...b9642ac544
Windows Spark at http://devialet.us4.list-manage.com/trac...b9642ac544
Android Spark at http://devialet.us4.list-manage1.com/tra...b9642ac544

(30-Apr-2015, 14:55)michirishi Wrote: [ -> ]Mine just came in. One yesterday via Colette, the other today (wit Dialog).
Installed and running within half an hour. This is what I think.

Build quality is good. Design is out of this world. Looks more like a 3d hologram beamer or ultra modern air-purifier/humidifier than a loudspeaker to me

Installing is easy. Just follow the instructions in Spark, perform some magic touches to the Phantoms and swipe their respective icons in the right corner of your i-device to place them left or right.

Sound is impressive. Clean, detailed and rich. Very adjustible in volume. From 0-100. 0-10 is for dreaming, 20-40 normal listening volumes. Around 50 for work out or party. 60-70 is perfect when listening to dynamic classical music or when you want to feel the bass kick you in your stomach. Above 70 is for the insane. These things play L O U D (standard Phantoms, not even the Silver).
Good thing is the 'night modus' which filters out most of the bass tones. Very suitable when listening music later in the evening or when you're worried about the neighbours.

Spark works perfectly fine with Qobuz. Some music from my iPhone plays well (even though it is only 256kb).
I've had many hifi sets over the years which served me well but where a little too large to my liking and I hated those cables all over the place. Solutions like B&W Zeppelin, Sonos, Libratone are better in this perspective, but sound only reasonable. But these Phantoms offer me everything I want. Can't compare their quality to anything I've owned before. Easy to place, good looking. My wife likes them. They are cute she says.

What leaves to be desired is some preset equalization (like rock, classic, acoustic or live) as well as personal adjustments. Standard is just perfect, but sometimes I can really appreciate these settings.

They are now waiting for their 'branch' stands. My hifi set is placed on eBay


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So I was doing some research, and found this page specifically. I'll read on later, but for now, can some of the Silver Phantom owners please take a look at the quoted message in Bold above, and try to answer the following questions, please?

Well first of all, a question for michirishi. creator of the quote, above:

When you say "volume 0-10 is for dreaming", do you mean a volume level low enough that eventually one could fall asleep, if trying to fall asleep while listening at that level?

Or, do you mean, a volume level to lay down, close your eyes, and dream up the music you're listening to? AKA, create a picture of the sound; get transported by the music; etc; etc.?

And now, the questions for Silver Phantom owners:

If on the regular Phantom, michirishi uses volume 0-10 to experience one of the aboves (or both),...what volume would you have to set the Silver Phantoms to, to get the same experience as michirishi did using volume 0-10?


Thank you,



Dvlt PhD

(07-Jul-2015, 01:58)Dvlt PhD Wrote: [ -> ]

(30-Apr-2015, 14:55)michirishi Wrote: [ -> ]...Sound is impressive. Clean, detailed and rich. Very adjustible in volume. From 0-100. 0-10 is for dreaming, 20-40 normal listening volumes. Around 50 for work out or party. 60-70 is perfect when listening to dynamic classical music or when you want to feel the bass kick you in your stomach. Above 70 is for the insane. These things play L O U D (standard Phantoms, not even the Silver).
Good thing is the 'night modus' which filters out most of the bass tones. Very suitable when listening music later in the evening or when you're worried about the neighbours. ...

So I was doing some research, and found this page specifically. I'll read on later, but for now, can some of the Silver Phantom owners please take a look at the quoted message in Bold above, and try to answer the following questions, please?

Well first of all, a question for michirishi. creator of the quote, above:

When you say "volume 0-10 is for dreaming", do you mean a volume level low enough that eventually one could fall asleep, if trying to fall asleep while listening at that level?

Or, do you mean, a volume level to lay down, close your eyes, and dream up the music you're listening to? AKA, create a picture of the sound; get transported by the music; etc; etc.?

And now, the questions for Silver Phantom owners:

If on the regular Phantom, michirishi uses volume 0-10 to experience one of the aboves (or both),...what volume would you have to set the Silver Phantoms to, to get the same experience as michirishi did using volume 0-10?


Thank you,



Dvlt PhD

I'll try to explain in detail. We are two months further and I still think the same as above. Here's a little more detail.
My room is about 40m2. I am still waiting for 'branch' so my white Phantoms are placed on 30cm high, solid wooden cubes, 0,7m before a 4m wall with some floor-to-ceiling windows in it, about 2.5m apart. Listening position is about 3.5m in front of phantoms.

Volume to me is like this:
0-5 perfect when going to sleep. Music is so quiet one could easily fall asleep beside is. Yet the sound quality is already present. Bass is audible as well as some detail. Voices are very clear.
5-8 perfect when practicing yoga or reading a book. Good to enjoy music with your eyes closed and dream away on the soundscape of some ambient or new-age music. This is probably the level you are refering to.
8-10 has a rather steep drop off in sound level.
10-15 is easy listening volume (to me at least). Very suitable late at night or when someone else is watching a movie with headphones on and you don't want them to 'enjoy' your Phantoms - for that time . On this level, I often find myself completely involved in the music. You don't have to play the Phantoms loud to enjoy some good quality music!
15-25 around dinner time. Nice for background music. Very good soundquality! I also find myself listening long music-sessions to this level sometimes.
25-45 normal listening volume. Lots of detail. Very, very good. This is when the white Phantoms really shine in my living room.
45-60 things get louder. Too loud when one wants to have a conversation. Perfect to be completely involved in the music and feel the rhythm throughout your body. Music can be heared throughout my 3-floor house. Audible when standing outsidie.
60-70 good when listening dynamic classical music. Or a few pop/rock songs if you want to feel a little bass. But it is loud. Only advisable when the neighbours are away.
70-80 simply too loud. Only good for famous 'woofer dance'. No sane person would listen to this for any longer than a few seconds. People will turn their heads when walking past your house.
>80 you will be affraid your ears will pop or the windows will blow out... (yet there is no distortion at all. Everything is still very smooth in a strange way. Very different than on ony 'normal' hifi set. Probably due to S.A.M).

I've managed 85 for a few seconds only once. When I wanted to test my white Phantoms, I didn't have the courage to go any louder.

In the beginning I had some doubt if I'd better had bought the silver Phantoms. But I absolutely see no reason for that at all (esthetics aside).

I listened to the silver and definitely hear more dynamics and better bass. Devialet made the silver version for a reason. Can't be just for aesthetics.