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First impressions
(08-Jul-2015, 22:32)deviousalet Wrote:
(08-Jul-2015, 18:23)f1eng Wrote: The amount of power being used by Phantoms, and to a slightly less extent Expert with SAM, will depend entirely how much low frequency information there is in the music you are listening to, and how loud you are playing.
The only time they will be taking a constant amount of power will be in standby.

The figures for the B&W and KEFs playing music would be varying not fixed, and with SAM would vary a lot if there is the occasional deep bass.

I disconnect my kit from the power when not using it, but have never timed how long to boot either my 800 or the Phantoms, though I guess the Phantoms are quite a bit longer since I have launched Spark and only had 1 speaker showing at first.

Compared to the two Krell KSA 200b stereo amps I used with my active Apogee Divas the Devialets use negligible power, and can comfortably be used in summer Smile


Since you have a D800 and Phantoms you could do the direct comparison if you have a watt meter.
I don't have Phantoms, but was passing on a best-case power figure (wasting all energy in standby not using any to play music). I assume they will use more power when actually doing something. In my own power measurements I saw a little variation (3W) using big B&W N802 speakers, but very little variation using small KEF LS50 speakers. As you say, bass takes power and the B&Ws have some (-3dB@34Hz) while the KEFs have very little (-3dB@80Hz).
If you would please measure your systems that would be great. Even just a stopwatch and powering on the Phantoms would be educational. Thanks.
I was going to measure power consumption when playing loud bass (ie lots of SAM correction) but have mislaid my power meter. I will do it when it turns up.
I can measure the Phantoms with lots of bass, my Animas which only require 500 milliwatts to be the same loudness as silver Phantoms flat out, and my LS50s with SAM, which will also need lots of power when using SAM and deep bass. But not until I come across the meter...

Timing the boot time of the Phantoms is a problem since there is no real way of knowing if they are up without launching Spark and seeing if it sees them both. If it doesn't see either it sits and waits but I do not know how frequently it is polling them so have no idea how soon after they are fully up that Spark goes to the next stage of its launch.
I just plug 'em in a few minutes before I plan to listen.
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First impressions - by fcs - 13-Mar-2015, 23:15
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 13-Mar-2015, 23:41
RE: First impressions - by fcs - 14-Mar-2015, 10:53
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 14-Mar-2015, 12:10
RE: First impressions - by theaudioguru - 14-Mar-2015, 21:43
RE: First impressions - by cthroughblue - 15-Mar-2015, 01:27
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 15-Mar-2015, 08:49
RE: First impressions - by michirishi - 15-Mar-2015, 10:04
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 15-Mar-2015, 13:08
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 16-Mar-2015, 12:09
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 16-Mar-2015, 19:20
RE: First impressions - by theaudioguru - 15-Mar-2015, 14:39
RE: First impressions - by Mikeeo - 14-Mar-2015, 13:25
RE: First impressions - by Confused - 14-Mar-2015, 13:33
RE: First impressions - by fcs - 16-Mar-2015, 14:15
RE: First impressions - by Jean-Marie - 16-Mar-2015, 15:14
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 14-Mar-2015, 13:39
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 14-Mar-2015, 14:10
RE: First impressions - by Mikeeo - 14-Mar-2015, 15:47
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 14-Mar-2015, 17:16
RE: First impressions - by cthroughblue - 15-Mar-2015, 02:09
RE: First impressions - by Jean-Marie - 16-Mar-2015, 21:08
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 16-Mar-2015, 22:13
RE: First impressions - by trashken - 18-Mar-2015, 06:16
RE: First impressions - by mattes - 22-Mar-2015, 18:09
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 22-Mar-2015, 22:26
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 22-Mar-2015, 23:58
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 23-Mar-2015, 08:31
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 23-Mar-2015, 11:06
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 25-Mar-2015, 00:04
RE: First impressions - by dr.sah - 23-Mar-2015, 13:34
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 23-Mar-2015, 14:37
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 23-Mar-2015, 14:49
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 23-Mar-2015, 15:35
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 23-Mar-2015, 19:36
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 23-Mar-2015, 20:49
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 23-Mar-2015, 22:09
RE: First impressions - by mirekti - 23-Mar-2015, 20:49
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 23-Mar-2015, 22:19
RE: First impressions - by trashken - 24-Mar-2015, 01:07
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RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 24-Mar-2015, 16:21
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 24-Mar-2015, 18:53
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 24-Mar-2015, 23:33
RE: First impressions - by Phs - 07-Apr-2015, 14:00
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 07-Apr-2015, 21:31
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 08-Apr-2015, 13:15
RE: First impressions - by fgueho - 25-Mar-2015, 00:23
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 25-Mar-2015, 20:03
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First impressions - by ledesc - 30-Mar-2015, 16:01
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 30-Mar-2015, 17:59
First impressions - by ledesc - 30-Mar-2015, 18:49
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RE: First impressions - by Gremlin - 05-Apr-2015, 01:21
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 05-Apr-2015, 10:01
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 05-Apr-2015, 19:16
First impressions - by ledesc - 05-Apr-2015, 10:56
First impressions - by mirekti - 05-Apr-2015, 20:10
RE: First impressions - by cthroughblue - 05-Apr-2015, 20:28
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 06-Apr-2015, 13:36
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 06-Apr-2015, 23:57
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 09-Apr-2015, 18:29
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 09-Apr-2015, 18:33
RE: First impressions - by GuillaumeB - 09-Apr-2015, 18:36
First impressions - by hk6230 - 17-Apr-2015, 10:19
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 17-Apr-2015, 12:37
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RE: First impressions - by Vivialet - 17-Apr-2015, 21:24
RE: First impressions - by IanG-UK - 17-Apr-2015, 21:41
RE: First impressions - by hk6230 - 19-Apr-2015, 12:50
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 20-Apr-2015, 00:54
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 20-Apr-2015, 14:37
RE: First impressions - by JohnnySix - 20-Apr-2015, 01:02
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 20-Apr-2015, 15:17
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 20-Apr-2015, 15:58
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RE: First impressions - by MattC - 20-Apr-2015, 20:48
RE: First impressions - by mixart - 20-Apr-2015, 19:15
RE: First impressions - by JohnnySix - 21-Apr-2015, 01:17
First impressions - by michirishi - 30-Apr-2015, 14:55
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 30-Apr-2015, 21:41
RE: First impressions - by Dvlt PhD - 07-Jul-2015, 01:58
RE: First impressions - by michirishi - 07-Jul-2015, 06:57
RE: First impressions - by trashken - 07-Jul-2015, 07:31
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 07-Jul-2015, 16:46
RE: First impressions - by Dvlt PhD - 07-Jul-2015, 23:38
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RE: First impressions - by dr.sah - 30-Apr-2015, 16:15
RE: First impressions - by dr.sah - 30-Apr-2015, 16:28
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RE: First impressions - by IanG-UK - 04-May-2015, 19:46
RE: First impressions - by streamy - 04-May-2015, 21:08
RE: First impressions - by brighty - 05-May-2015, 00:52
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 05-May-2015, 00:55
RE: First impressions - by Mr_Bill - 05-May-2015, 01:49
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 05-May-2015, 04:20
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 05-May-2015, 11:59
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 05-May-2015, 12:09
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 05-May-2015, 12:31
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 05-May-2015, 15:21
RE: First impressions - by Phs - 05-May-2015, 15:45
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RE: First impressions - by Phs - 06-May-2015, 12:54
RE: First impressions - by trashken - 06-May-2015, 12:06
RE: First impressions - by superstock - 06-May-2015, 13:05
RE: First impressions - by davidadamson - 06-May-2015, 16:54
RE: First impressions - by fcs - 06-May-2015, 20:39
RE: First impressions - by EvPa - 06-May-2015, 21:52
RE: First impressions - by fcs - 07-May-2015, 08:33
RE: First impressions - by Vince_JP - 07-Jul-2015, 16:11
RE: First impressions - by Jean-Marie - 07-Jul-2015, 16:39
RE: First impressions - by Gremlin - 08-Jul-2015, 00:59
RE: First impressions - by Jean-Marie - 08-Jul-2015, 08:50
RE: First impressions - by deviousalet - 08-Jul-2015, 14:55
RE: First impressions - by Dvlt PhD - 08-Jul-2015, 18:47
RE: First impressions - by thumb5 - 08-Jul-2015, 20:25
RE: First impressions - by trashken - 08-Jul-2015, 05:44
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 08-Jul-2015, 18:23
RE: First impressions - by deviousalet - 08-Jul-2015, 22:32
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 09-Jul-2015, 16:36
RE: First impressions - by deviousalet - 09-Jul-2015, 17:52
RE: First impressions - by IanG-UK - 08-Jul-2015, 21:38
RE: First impressions - by mixart - 08-Jul-2015, 21:48
RE: First impressions - by Vince_JP - 09-Jul-2015, 14:44
RE: First impressions - by Jean-Marie - 09-Jul-2015, 15:19
RE: First impressions - by Dvlt PhD - 09-Jul-2015, 19:46
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 09-Jul-2015, 20:00
RE: First impressions - by Dvlt PhD - 10-Jul-2015, 18:59
First impressions - by hk6230 - 10-Jul-2015, 22:35
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 11-Jul-2015, 14:15
RE: First impressions - by hk6230 - 12-Jul-2015, 07:57
RE: First impressions - by ragwo - 12-Jul-2015, 01:08
RE: First impressions - by stonedragon - 12-Jul-2015, 08:52
RE: First impressions - by Divasson - 20-Jul-2015, 11:41
RE: First impressions - by f1eng - 20-Jul-2015, 12:06
RE: First impressions - by Mr_Bill - 20-Jul-2015, 16:19
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RE: First impressions - by Mr_Bill - 20-Jul-2015, 21:04
RE: First impressions - by midi - 20-Jul-2015, 21:28
RE: First impressions - by Divasson - 20-Jul-2015, 21:49
RE: First impressions - by Rodrat2 - 21-Jul-2015, 08:32
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