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(30-Sep-2015, 15:37)Stigmater Wrote: After experience on how SQ can be changed with Linn Akurate DS where you have DAC (as it turned out better than Devialet's ) and streamer in one package, i don't really understand how i can expect changes in SQ when using different Aurender models like X100 or W20 (very expensive Flagship) when all of those are transports connected to Devialet DAC (that by the way very average DAC in terms of SQ) .
So what im missing here ?
why spend money on expensive transport when actual noticeable increase in SQ will be generated from good DAC.

You have asked a question that so many have asked before about audio transports (disk and/or servers). When I had my Ressonessence DAC I auditioned both the S10 and X100. The S10 was the better sounding when I used its balanced output. The X100 sounded better through the USB because its USB circuit came from the W20. I bought the X100 because the S10 cost more than I could afford. But the transport is IMHO very important.
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(30-Sep-2015, 17:11)rwjr44 Wrote:
(30-Sep-2015, 15:37)Stigmater Wrote: After experience on how SQ can be changed with Linn Akurate DS where you have DAC (as it turned out better than Devialet's ) and streamer in one package, i don't really understand how i can expect changes in SQ when using different Aurender models like X100 or W20 (very expensive Flagship) when all of those are transports connected to Devialet DAC (that by the way very average DAC in terms of SQ) .
So what im missing here ?
why spend money on expensive transport when actual noticeable increase in SQ will be generated from good DAC.

You have asked a question that so many have asked before about audio transports (disk and/or servers). When I had my Ressonessence DAC I auditioned both the S10 and X100. The S10 was the better sounding when I used its balanced output. The X100 sounded better through the USB because its USB circuit came from the W20. I bought the X100 because the S10 cost more than I could afford. But the transport is IMHO very important.

I'm relatively young audiophile and I don't have life time of experience yet, every day I discover something new that changes my view on things,
My latest personal discovery was regarding how good and I mean a good DAC can impact SQ , so based on your input I can conclude one thing, only AFTER you got not a decent but a good DAC, only then you should consider expensive transport for music, meanwhile invest in best DAC you can possibly afford.
People who did it vise versa ,( my self include) simply don't really understood the mistake they done, spending money in wrong device in the time chain of upgrades to perfect setup.
Devialet 800| B&W 802 Diamond | JL 113 | Linn Akurate DS + Denon HEOS for Spotify | Stealth Reverie speaker cables| Audioprana AES/RCA | DH LABS PC 
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(30-Sep-2015, 15:37)Stigmater Wrote: After experience on how SQ can be changed with Linn Akurate DS where you have DAC (as it turned out better than Devialet's ) and streamer in one package, i don't really understand how i can expect changes in SQ when using different Aurender models like X100 or W20 (very expensive Flagship) when all of those are transports connected to Devialet DAC (that by the way very average DAC in terms of SQ) .
So what im missing here ?
why spend money on expensive transport when actual noticeable increase in SQ will be generated from good DAC.

You can't really state that the DAC of the Linn is better than that of the Devialet as when you connect the Linn to the Devialet the Devialet internal DAC is also used. It's used for both digital and analog inputs. When you use the analog output of the Linn you even use the ADC of the Devialet as well.

Or did you compare both connecting the pre-out of the Devialet and the analog out of the Linn into a power amplifier?
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(30-Sep-2015, 18:24)Antoine Wrote:
(30-Sep-2015, 15:37)Stigmater Wrote: After experience on how SQ can be changed with Linn Akurate DS where you have DAC (as it turned out better than Devialet's ) and streamer in one package, i don't really understand how i can expect changes in SQ when using different Aurender models like X100 or W20 (very expensive Flagship) when all of those are transports connected to Devialet DAC (that by the way very average DAC in terms of SQ) .
So what im missing here ?
why spend money on expensive transport when actual noticeable increase in SQ will be generated from good DAC.

You can't really state that the DAC of the Linn is better than that of the Devialet as when you connect the Linn to the Devialet the Devialet internal DAC is also used. It's used for both digital and analog inputs. When you use the analog output of the Linn you even use the ADC of the Devialet as well.

Or did you compare both connecting the pre-out of the Devialet and the analog out of the Linn into a power amplifier?

It's my subjective opinion based only on my setup.
Devialet 800| B&W 802 Diamond | JL 113 | Linn Akurate DS + Denon HEOS for Spotify | Stealth Reverie speaker cables| Audioprana AES/RCA | DH LABS PC 
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I don't think you understand what I'm saying amd/or how the Devialet works internally.

Did you connect the Linn to the Devialet? If so you're also listening to the Devialet DAC as it is -always- in the chain. If you used the analog output of the Linn you're also using the internal ADC of the Devialet (so ADC+DAC both).

So how do you think can you judge the DAC quality of the Linn to be better when you're using the DAC of the Devialet at the same time?
PS Audio P3, Shunyata ΞTRON Alpha Digital and HC/Furutech power cables, Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4, DIY Roon Server & Roon Endpoint running AudioLinux Headless, Phasure Lush^2 USB cable, Audioquest Diamond RJ/E ethernet, Uptone Audio etherREGEN, Mutec MC-3+ USB, Shunyata ΞTRON Anaconda Digital XLR AES/EBU, Devialet Expert 250 Pro CI, Nordost Tyr Reference LS cables, Von Schweikert VR-5 SE Anniversary Edition, Anti-Mode Dual Core 2.0, JL Audio Fathom F112. More detail here.

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So the chain is something like this: source file/NAS/computer - ethernet - Linn DAC - analog interlink - Devialet ADC - Devialet DSP - Devialet DAC - Devialet amplification - loudspeaker cables - loudspeakers.
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Interesting review:

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/0...er-review/
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(01-Oct-2015, 12:44)Confused Wrote: Interesting review:

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/0...er-review/

It was a good review. Thanks for the post.
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Has anyone used the Wikipedia feature? If so, what are your opinions/speculations?
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Yes, I like it, and I think I will use it a lot in the future.

I would also like a function to see the lyrics from the app

Kind regards Morten
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