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(20-Apr-2015, 01:38)mauidan Wrote: I think part of issue people are having with the stock Crystal cable is digital cables take a long time to burn-in.
I put mine on my Hager-Tech Frykleaner for three days before using it.
I guess the resulting SQ was much better then!?
I used my Crystal cable between my Oppo player and Dev for + 1000 hours, and I can't say it made much difference from the initial SQ. Compared to the RCA-AES/EBU solution it not on the same level. My own RCA-RCA construction is still better than the Crystal.
Maybe a cooker is the answer to break it?
Happy with my RCA-AES/EBU set up/Mike
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(26-Mar-2015, 19:46)MusicFirst Wrote: (26-Mar-2015, 19:42)Mohmm Wrote: (26-Mar-2015, 18:44)MusicFirst Wrote: Does Anyone know for sure if the Audioprana SP/Dif-AES/EBU cable uses a transformer? Either under the wood collar midway between the connectors or within either of the connectors?
Thanks
Kerry
Why don't you directly ask the Audioprana person him/herself?
I E-mailed them but have no response yet. I should be more patient!
Did they reply?
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(19-Dec-2014, 11:15)amabrok Wrote: Ordered this now
The Neutrik NA2FPMM 3 pole XLR Male – RCA Plug (http://www.neutrik.com/en/accessories/ci...rs/na2mpmm)
to use with a Van Den Hul AES-EBU 110 Ohm professional interconnect
The XLR interconnect was laying around doing nothing, so i thought to order the Neutrik adapter and try the RCA-XLR Master/Slave link.
will report back once it arrives
So, how does this compare with the Audioprana cable in terms of SQ?
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(19-Apr-2015, 19:43)miro Wrote: Which £3500 1m cable are you using between your master and slave units?
It's the Transparent Reference XL 75 ohm SPDIF:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles...ital-link/
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(20-Apr-2015, 11:35)GuillaumeB Wrote: (19-Apr-2015, 19:43)miro Wrote: Which £3500 1m cable are you using between your master and slave units?
It's the Transparent Reference XL 75 ohm SPDIF:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles...ital-link/
Guillaume
Hi GuillaumeB,
I would have expected you to choose the 110 ohm. Any particular reason why you chose the 75 ohm?
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(20-Apr-2015, 12:38)amabrok Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 11:35)GuillaumeB Wrote: (19-Apr-2015, 19:43)miro Wrote: Which £3500 1m cable are you using between your master and slave units?
It's the Transparent Reference XL 75 ohm SPDIF:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles...ital-link/
Guillaume
Hi GuillaumeB,
I would have expected you to choose the 110 ohm. Any particular reason why you chose the 75 ohm?
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You mean as in a hybrid cable?
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(20-Apr-2015, 12:44)GuillaumeB Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 12:38)amabrok Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 11:35)GuillaumeB Wrote: (19-Apr-2015, 19:43)miro Wrote: Which £3500 1m cable are you using between your master and slave units?
It's the Transparent Reference XL 75 ohm SPDIF:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles...ital-link/
Guillaume
Hi GuillaumeB,
I would have expected you to choose the 110 ohm. Any particular reason why you chose the 75 ohm?
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You mean as in a hybrid cable?
Guillaume G, I guess you're running RCA-RCA 75 ohm and not into the AES/EBU (hybrid)?
/Mike
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(20-Apr-2015, 13:01)Mikeeo Wrote: G, I guess you're running RCA-RCA 75 ohm and not into the AES/EBU (hybrid)?
/Mike
Correct! At the time (going back well over a year) I wasn't convinced by the rationale behind the hybrid and there were conflicting guidelines on the subject coming from Devialet anyway. So I opted for more of a purist approach. When I put this cable into my system there was such a dramatic improvement (yes, night and day) that it was a no brainer quite frankly!
Many months later I found out about the Audioprana hybrid, hence my sharing of this on the forum.
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(20-Apr-2015, 12:44)GuillaumeB Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 12:38)amabrok Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 11:35)GuillaumeB Wrote: (19-Apr-2015, 19:43)miro Wrote: Which £3500 1m cable are you using between your master and slave units?
It's the Transparent Reference XL 75 ohm SPDIF:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles...ital-link/
Guillaume
Hi GuillaumeB,
I would have expected you to choose the 110 ohm. Any particular reason why you chose the 75 ohm?
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You mean as in a hybrid cable?
Guillaume
Yes I thought you were running a hybrid RCA-XLR
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(20-Apr-2015, 13:08)GuillaumeB Wrote: (20-Apr-2015, 13:01)Mikeeo Wrote: G, I guess you're running RCA-RCA 75 ohm and not into the AES/EBU (hybrid)?
/Mike
Correct! At the time (going back well over a year) I wasn't convinced by the rationale behind the hybrid and there were conflicting guidelines on the subject coming from Devialet anyway. So I opted for more of a purist approach. When I put this cable into my system there was such a dramatic improvement (yes, night and day) that it was a no brainer quite frankly!
Many months later I found out about the Audioprana hybrid, hence my sharing of this on the forum.
Guillaume
You can try with the Neutrik NA2FPMM 3 pole XLR Male – RCA Plug (http://www.neutrik.com/en/accessories/circular-adapters/na2mpmm)
on the side of the slave unit.
I am also extremely happy with my Stereolab Tombo Tron coaxial 75-ohm ($2,000), but might try combining it with the Neutrik NA2FPMM as well.
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