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(24-Jul-2015, 16:37)Stigmater Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 02:50)hk6230 Wrote: (23-Jul-2015, 22:58)Stigmater Wrote: Finaly I got some time to test Roon, I can't manage to
stream through AIR bit perfect like it happens when streaming from iTunes library.
its only possible on USB or I missing something ?
Are you using Mac? If yes, then AIR on Exclusive mode is not working. You can use a PC as remote to stream AIR on exclusive and event driven mode.
Im using my iMac that located in my office room (not near Devialet) my question is regarding BitPerfect stream, i did managed to stream through AIR (i hear by the way some clicks and other noise, not good at all, maybe will be solved if ill connect mac with USB to Devialet) but the stream is not bitPerfect for example 24bit 192Kz converted to 16 bit 44.1 .
This is exactly what I meant. To achieve bitperfect stream, you must be running in exclusive mode. You can see the signal path dot (purple means bitperfect) right above the song title. When I selected Exclusive Mode for AIR on my Mac, there's no sound.
Before: Le200, KEF LS50, AQ Type4, NUC 5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, Win8.1/AIR2.1.3/RoonBridge, MM/AIR3/RoonBridge, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS, AQ NRG-X3
Now: KEF LS50W, NUC5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS,iFi iSilencer3.0+DC iPurifier+iPurifier2, Sonos ZP80+SPDIF iPurifier
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(24-Jul-2015, 18:15)hk6230 Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 16:37)Stigmater Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 02:50)hk6230 Wrote: (23-Jul-2015, 22:58)Stigmater Wrote: Finaly I got some time to test Roon, I can't manage to
stream through AIR bit perfect like it happens when streaming from iTunes library.
its only possible on USB or I missing something ?
Are you using Mac? If yes, then AIR on Exclusive mode is not working. You can use a PC as remote to stream AIR on exclusive and event driven mode.
Im using my iMac that located in my office room (not near Devialet) my question is regarding BitPerfect stream, i did managed to stream through AIR (i hear by the way some clicks and other noise, not good at all, maybe will be solved if ill connect mac with USB to Devialet) but the stream is not bitPerfect for example 24bit 192Kz converted to 16 bit 44.1 .
This is exactly what I meant. To achieve bitperfect stream, you must be running in exclusive mode. You can see the signal path dot (purple means bitperfect) right above the song title. When I selected Exclusive Mode for AIR on my Mac, there's no sound.
Got you, same here.
So the only way for bit perfect its mac near Devialet connected with USB ?
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USB guarantees work and support up to 24/192 and DSD files. For AIR to achieve bitperfect streaming I used a Win8.1 tablet as Roon Remote to stream to my D200.
从我的 iPhone 发送,使用 Tapatalk
Before: Le200, KEF LS50, AQ Type4, NUC 5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, Win8.1/AIR2.1.3/RoonBridge, MM/AIR3/RoonBridge, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS, AQ NRG-X3
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OK, just sold my Mac Mini and getting ready to buy an Intel NUC + a linear power supply just for Roon.
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Now: KEF LS50W, NUC5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS,iFi iSilencer3.0+DC iPurifier+iPurifier2, Sonos ZP80+SPDIF iPurifier
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(27-Jul-2015, 05:08)hk6230 Wrote: OK, just sold my Mac Mini and getting ready to buy an Intel NUC + a linear power supply just for Roon.
Which player are you going to install on your Intel NUC?
Will it support Air?
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(28-Jul-2015, 19:49)johnsap Wrote: (27-Jul-2015, 05:08)hk6230 Wrote: OK, just sold my Mac Mini and getting ready to buy an Intel NUC + a linear power supply just for Roon.
Which player are you going to install on your Intel NUC?
Will it support Air?
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My new Roon Server is up and running on my new Intel NUC after two days of installing Win 8.1 on it. The final config is:
Intel NUC 5i5RYH + 8GB RAM + 128GB M.2 SSD
TeraDak DC-200W 12V/13A Linear Power to NUC (replacing original power cable)
JPlay 6.2, ASIO, Classic
iFi iUSBpower, Mercury USB cable, iPurifier
Roon Remote is Win8.1 Tablet
Further improvement: USB Regenerator + Jitter removal (China-made), I believe quite similar to Uptone Regen but different implementation. And it is less than USD80. Will update on the performance. Expected delivery tomorrow.
Future upgrade wishlist: Audioquest Jitterbug, iFi iUSBpower 2
Before: Le200, KEF LS50, AQ Type4, NUC 5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, Win8.1/AIR2.1.3/RoonBridge, MM/AIR3/RoonBridge, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS, AQ NRG-X3
Now: KEF LS50W, NUC5i5RYH/8GB/128GB M.2SSD, Roon, QNAP TS-212P 5TB NAS,iFi iSilencer3.0+DC iPurifier+iPurifier2, Sonos ZP80+SPDIF iPurifier
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(24-Jul-2015, 16:37)Stigmater Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 02:50)hk6230 Wrote: (23-Jul-2015, 22:58)Stigmater Wrote: Finaly I got some time to test Roon, I can't manage to
stream through AIR bit perfect like it happens when streaming from iTunes library.
its only possible on USB or I missing something ?
Are you using Mac? If yes, then AIR on Exclusive mode is not working. You can use a PC as remote to stream AIR on exclusive and event driven mode.
Im using my iMac that located in my office room (not near Devialet) my question is regarding BitPerfect stream, i did managed to stream through AIR (i hear by the way some clicks and other noise, not good at all, maybe will be solved if ill connect mac with USB to Devialet) but the stream is not bitPerfect for example 24bit 192Kz converted to 16 bit 44.1 .
I have experienced exactly the same thing. Given that my d1 server is on its way back to France for an upgrade I thought I would download Roon and run it through AIR. Sounds horrible, clicks/pops and generally bad.
My music is sitting on a NAS, so I'm not sure if this is adding to the problem.
Guillaume
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(29-Jul-2015, 17:12)GuillaumeB Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 16:37)Stigmater Wrote: (24-Jul-2015, 02:50)hk6230 Wrote: (23-Jul-2015, 22:58)Stigmater Wrote: Finaly I got some time to test Roon, I can't manage to
stream through AIR bit perfect like it happens when streaming from iTunes library.
its only possible on USB or I missing something ?
Are you using Mac? If yes, then AIR on Exclusive mode is not working. You can use a PC as remote to stream AIR on exclusive and event driven mode.
Im using my iMac that located in my office room (not near Devialet) my question is regarding BitPerfect stream, i did managed to stream through AIR (i hear by the way some clicks and other noise, not good at all, maybe will be solved if ill connect mac with USB to Devialet) but the stream is not bitPerfect for example 24bit 192Kz converted to 16 bit 44.1 .
I have experienced exactly the same thing. Given that my d1 server is on its way back to France for an upgrade I thought I would download Roon and run it through AIR. Sounds horrible, clicks/pops and generally bad.
My music is sitting on a NAS, so I'm not sure if this is adding to the problem.
Guillaume
I have exactly the same thing but after an hour of listening and a stop and start of the AIR service cleans it up for a while so I think its another AIR vagary I'm afraid. Fortunately mine works most of the time and goes wrong occasionally, I am waiting for the Raspberry Pi headless to be released or Roon speakers for RPI will then stream to the RPI then via coax or optical to Devialet.
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Some good news from Roon
Our iPad offering is just around the corner (iPad Air/Air 2, iPad Mini 2/Mini 3),It's finished and in testing, we're bundling it with our Roon v1.1 release, which includes a lot of other goodies outside of the iPad app and is still a work in progress.
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