Apologies if this has been mentioned recently, but if you use the (originally recommended) rca to AES connection between master and companion you can not use any of the companion inputs.
In order to select this link choice you first have to deselect "Share sources from slave"
That is why I didn't use it on the 800 (I did on my pair of D-Premiers).
Snapshot showing slave self configured CD input, very odd.
(14-Dec-2014, 16:18)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]Apologies if this has been mentioned recently, but if you use the (originally recommended) rca to AES connection between master and companion you can not use any of the companion inputs.
In order to select this link choice you first have to deselect "Share sources from slave"
That is why I didn't use it on the 800 (I did on my pair of D-Premiers).
Indeed so! Please note from the screen shots that the "Share sources from slave" are in fact deselected. As it happens, I can't get the slave inputs to work even when I use SPDIP to SPDIF cable and correctly connected trigger cable. Devialet have responded to me that this is a known configurator issue, but no solution has been offered after many months, the query with Devialet is open. Others have reported the same issue recently on this forum. I'm a PC user, and I am wondering if the Configurator works better on a Mac. Fairly irrelevant to me as I don't own a Mac!
Carefully tried everything again. This time, between saving the master and slave SD cards, the red link line disappears, and now a new one, the line input that was designated "Surround" has changed back to "Line 1", all by itself. Time to give up I think!
Devialet really must have taken on too much work.
In the D-Premier period such poor service wasn't the way. It was early days and the bugs were found, but fixing them was interactive and swift.
(14-Dec-2014, 16:25)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]Snapshot showing slave self configured CD input, very odd.
(14-Dec-2014, 16:18)f1eng Wrote: [ -> ]Apologies if this has been mentioned recently, but if you use the (originally recommended) rca to AES connection between master and companion you can not use any of the companion inputs.
In order to select this link choice you first have to deselect "Share sources from slave"
That is why I didn't use it on the 800 (I did on my pair of D-Premiers).
Indeed so! Please note from the screen shots that the "Share sources from slave" are in fact deselected. As it happens, I can't get the slave inputs to work even when I use SPDIP to SPDIF cable and correctly connected trigger cable. Devialet have responded to me that this is a known configurator issue, but no solution has been offered after many months, the query with Devialet is open. Others have reported the same issue recently on this forum. I'm a PC user, and I am wondering if the Configurator works better on a Mac. Fairly irrelevant to me as I don't own a Mac!
Carefully tried everything again. This time, between saving the master and slave SD cards, the red link line disappears, and now a new one, the line input that was designated "Surround" has changed back to "Line 1", all by itself. Time to give up I think!
How very frustrating Confused. Perhaps you should ask Devialet to configure the units for you and send you the new config files, I'm sure they'll be happy to help.
I must admit I find the configurator a little glitchy myself and that's using a Mac/Safari.
If only all this could be done over the network rather than having to manually remove the SD cards each time. In fact if we had some kind of app on our PC/Macs that would manage all this and look for updates etc it would be sooo much easier!
Guillaume
A further update! I messed around with the configurator for a while, and as an experiment I tried selecting what would be the SPDIF link input on the companion as a digital pre-out, thus kind of forcing the Configurator onto the AES/EBU link input. Made up a couple of SD cards, and yes! It actually works! Having wasted many hours on this, getting rather annoyed and frustrated, I shall now spend a happy half hour sending another configurator related query to Devialet.
Back to the cable itself, it comes with an A4 fact sheet in French, section 3 of which states. "Les cables necessitent au moins une periode de "rodage" de 10 a 30 hours afin d'exprimer leurs qualities musicales. A l'issue de cette periode, l'evolution se poursuit avec toutefois, un processus ralenti avant d'atteindre leur pleine maturite."
Or per Google translate: "The cables require at least a period of "running "from 10 to 30 hours to express their musical qualities. At the end of this period, the Evolution continues, however, the process is slowed before reaching their full maturity. "
So, I'll let the cable run in for 10 to 30 hours before jumping to any conclusions regarding quality!
(14-Dec-2014, 17:57)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]So, I'll let the cable run in for 10 to 30 hours before jumping to any conclusions regarding quality!
Glad that you have finally prevailed
eager to know your opinion on the cable
I'm very sceptical about all high price accessory manufacturers jumping on the "takes 10 to 30 hours to burn in" bandwagon when it was unnoticed for 50 years and now it is "important" to all of them - and largely precludes instant comparison.
Strangely, I had the same issue with manufacturers' brochures which i found were unreadable for the first 10 to 30 hours but after that they were fine. Luckily one can now read them online where they are usually already burnt in.
I am a bit suspicious of burn in too Ian. Is it the product burning in or the listener becoming accustomed to the change in sound?
Our hearing is extremely effective at compensating for changes and cancelling out the unexpected, otherwise we would find listening to concerts in different venues disconcerting.
It is quite instructive to listen to different microphone positions. There is no psychological compensation for environment then, and the actual difference in sound is actually considerably greater than one perceives by moving to the microphone locations in person since we compensate so effectively.
(14-Dec-2014, 17:57)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]A further update! I messed around with the configurator for a while, and as an experiment I tried selecting what would be the SPDIF link input on the companion as a digital pre-out, thus kind of forcing the Configurator onto the AES/EBU link input. Made up a couple of SD cards, and yes! It actually works! Having wasted many hours on this, getting rather annoyed and frustrated, I shall now spend a happy half hour sending another configurator related query to Devialet.
Confused, I see you made the same discovery journey as I did, nice to hear that you arrived, I did too yesterday. The logic behind all these settings are not healthy to think about. I use Mac and Safari and thought that might be the reason.
I still have some issues with the analogue input 1 of the master as only one channel works and the other one is still digital in, even if configurator says L and R input 1.
As a final note I would like to mention that using the XLR input of the slave as well as on the master for my streaming source gave some small gains and well worth it. I did my own RCA-XLR by the way and has at the moment put any further investments for RCA-XLR ie Audioprana on hold.
/Mike
Well it took me about 10 to 30 hours to get the damn Configurator to work! Maybe burn in makes a difference maybe not. Either way it's currently simmering away on TV duties as I watch SPOTY, which I don't think is going to influence me much.
I too am cynical about burn in, but I did have an incident at the Guilford audio event this year. I was in a room with D800 powered Wilson Audios, a fairly decently recorded jazz track was playing. After the track finished, our host messed around with things behind the kit and played the same track again. To me it was clear, the track sounded best first time around, a couple of other folk in the room agreed. There was a CD player, streamer and laptop on show. This made me think I was hearing a different source. On asking what had chaged, we were advised it was a digital cable. I was surprised a cable could make that much difference. The sting in the tail was that both cables were Transparent, and the one we preferred was lower range. Our host suggested the issue may have been that the more expensive cable was brand new. There is still part of me that is a bit of a cable sceptic, but thing like this make you wonder!