For those interested I thought I would post this picture of the Audioprana cable. The point to note is that it looks slightly different to the one shown on the Audioprana website, the connectors look slightly thinner (which is probably a good thing, because the cable shown here fits neatly with the Devialet's rear cover fitted), plus it has the additional wooden item part way down the cable. I'm not sure if they have changed the design, or if this is supplied "customised" to suit my stated requirements of using this as a Devialet dual mono link cable. It's basic design does look similar to other cables shown on their website though.
(15-Dec-2014, 13:51)smokejumper Wrote: [ -> ]I really don't know. It's just a supposition that the impedance will be higher because the capacitance is low - according to wikipedia, the impedance for a low resistance line is the square root of the inductance divided by the capacitance, so low capacitance gives higher impedance if the inductance is the same.
This may be flawed though, I'm not an expert and I don't really want a thread to appear about this...
I thought Thierry had suggested a 110 ohm cable if it were attached to the AES/EBU on the companion, but maybe I'm mistaken.
Yes, Thierry told me that 110 ohm cable would be the best and nothing else than connecting the XLR plug in the same way Devialet informs on the homepage ie std way of connecting a RCA to XLR.
I run a 75 ohm with or without a transformer into the AES/EBU and that works better than the SE-SE version.
/Mike
(15-Dec-2014, 23:02)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]For those interested I thought I would post this picture of the Audioprana cable. The point to note is that it looks slightly different to the one shown on the Audioprana website, the connectors look slightly thinner (which is probably a good thing, because the cable shown here fits neatly with the Devialet's rear cover fitted), plus it has the additional wooden item part way down the cable. I'm not sure if they have changed the design, or if this is supplied "customised" to suit my stated requirements of using this as a Devialet dual mono link cable. It's basic design does look similar to other cables shown on their website though.
Confused, how does it sound or was it better?
/Mike
(15-Dec-2014, 14:18)amabrok Wrote: [ -> ] (15-Dec-2014, 13:49)PhilP Wrote: [ -> ][quote='amabrok' pid='7008' dateline='1418645484']
Out of the very few things we get from Devialet on this topic was their recommendation to use 75 ohm cable and not 110ohm.
Err.. according to Mikeeo in post 131 above, Devialet told him to use 110 ohm cable.
Hi PhilP,
thanks for pointing this out. but i also refer to earlier posts on this thread by Ian reminding us to use 75 ohm cable and I believe Mikeeo is using a DIY VHAudio 75 ohm cable.
Confirm, 75 ohm, a slight positive effect when used input AES/EBU. I thinh Thierry is right that the AES/EBU input is better than the SE one hence even using a 75 ohm cable like me there is an advantage.
/Mike
Oh well, I'm confused now - Devialet (Thierry) says use 110 ohm but knowledgeable people on here say 75 ohm is fine
Still, I don't have to worry at the moment - if equity markets continue to fall then an 800 is a little way off...
(16-Dec-2014, 09:22)PhilP Wrote: [ -> ]Oh well, I'm confused now - Devialet (Thierry) says use 110 ohm but knowledgeable people on here say 75 ohm is fine
Still, I don't have to worry at the moment - if equity markets continue to fall then an 800 is a little way off...
Mike here, well I just did what ever I wanted and started with 75 but will of course try 110 at some point.
/Mike
(15-Dec-2014, 23:02)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]For those interested I thought I would post this picture of the Audioprana cable. The point to note is that it looks slightly different to the one shown on the Audioprana website, the connectors look slightly thinner (which is probably a good thing, because the cable shown here fits neatly with the Devialet's rear cover fitted), plus it has the additional wooden item part way down the cable. I'm not sure if they have changed the design, or if this is supplied "customised" to suit my stated requirements of using this as a Devialet dual mono link cable. It's basic design does look similar to other cables shown on their website though.
Confused, any update on the performance of this cable?
/Mike
(17-Dec-2014, 11:14)Mikeeo Wrote: [ -> ] (15-Dec-2014, 23:02)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]For those interested I thought I would post this picture of the Audioprana cable. The point to note is that it looks slightly different to the one shown on the Audioprana website, the connectors look slightly thinner (which is probably a good thing, because the cable shown here fits neatly with the Devialet's rear cover fitted), plus it has the additional wooden item part way down the cable. I'm not sure if they have changed the design, or if this is supplied "customised" to suit my stated requirements of using this as a Devialet dual mono link cable. It's basic design does look similar to other cables shown on their website though.
Confused, any update on the performance of this cable?
/Mike
No, sorry! Been working too hard! I should have time for some serious listening at the weekend and will report back.
(17-Dec-2014, 11:44)Confused Wrote: [ -> ] (17-Dec-2014, 11:14)Mikeeo Wrote: [ -> ] (15-Dec-2014, 23:02)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]For those interested I thought I would post this picture of the Audioprana cable. The point to note is that it looks slightly different to the one shown on the Audioprana website, the connectors look slightly thinner (which is probably a good thing, because the cable shown here fits neatly with the Devialet's rear cover fitted), plus it has the additional wooden item part way down the cable. I'm not sure if they have changed the design, or if this is supplied "customised" to suit my stated requirements of using this as a Devialet dual mono link cable. It's basic design does look similar to other cables shown on their website though.
Confused, any update on the performance of this cable?
/Mike
No, sorry! Been working too hard! I should have time for some serious listening at the weekend and will report back.
Okili, looking forward to your impressions. Working hard as well but Devchat is a bit like an intermission window between workload sessions. I don't have much time either and since I heard the Raidho X1 and then put in an order for a pair my sessions in front of the 'altar' has been reduced as my ears are dedicated to X1
/Mike
Well, a minor party at my house tonight, following on from the Wednesday Christmas meeting at Newbury races tonight (very near to my house). A couple of folk who have heard my system before, and have no idea about the link cable, have advised that the system sounds more analogue and natural, maybe ritcher, for me, I have noticed more depth in the bass, not more bass or boomy, but far more detailed and resolved. Not what I was expecting, which was maybe better imagery, but yes, hard to describe, but much nicer to listen to in that rich analogue way. Plus the detail and mid range is still impressive. In short, yes I like it. Not sure if it's down to the cable or utilising the XLR input, either way positive so far. A busy night tonight, serious observations will follow at the weekend, but perhaps tonight's casual results when not listening to hard and enjoying the music gives observations that actually matter more then when really concentrating and studying. In summery, try the AES/EBU link. I really think its worth a go! I am someone who thinks digital cables cannot possibly make any difference, but i have heard a couple of things recently that are challenging this. Including what I am hearing now and comments from non audiophile friends tonight. Apart from the qualatve bass difference, there seams to be a more analogue subjective difference that I cannot actually put into words. I'm sorry if this sounds a bit waffling, describing what you hear is difficult. Short summary, try an AES/EBU cable if you have dual mono, I'm glad I did! I think I'll report more at the weekend when I have a chance of some serious listening on my own.
When OAC lent me a demo D250 to try dual mono, they gave me a chord Sarum cable for the link, which I thought was ridiculous because of its cost. However, as soon as I started listening I loved it. But I don't actually think my actual purchased D250 / 800 slave has sounded as good as the demo unit, until tonight with the far cheaper Audioprana. Give it a try!
Interesting write up, thanks. I am sorely tempted to try one myself...