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#51
Just to complete the story: I re-activated my Roon account, re-installed it on my MacBook Pro and told Roon where my audio files are. Roon immediately recognised my Devialet and I thought, well, easy-peasy! But, after selecting a track for playing, Roon responded 'Transport: Device in Use'. This seems to be a frequently found error message after looking it up on Roon's help site. I followed Roon's instructions for the preferences settings in AIR ('never stream automatically to it'), but this didn't help. I had to quit the AIR application on my Mac, and voilà, streaming took off!

Next, I downloaded Roon's remote app for my iPad, and there I sat in my living room, streaming music from my G-Tech HDD in my study. I haven't had the time for extensive testing, this will come later on today. But the sound was really amazing, very transparent, I would even rate it a bit higher than my beloved Aurender N100H! But again, these are only initial impressions and I have to follow this up with extended testing, particularly concerning the stability of streaming. But so far, a pleasing experiment.


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#52
@Sailor4W thanks for the followup, this totally echo's my experience: Roon and Devialet are a perfect match - and I can take a box out of the living room. After a month of "testing", I'm now seriously considering selling my Aurender.
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#53
(21-Sep-2018, 10:16)alaw Wrote: @Sailor4W thanks for the followup, this totally echo's my experience: Roon and Devialet are a perfect match - and I can take a box out of the living room. After a month of "testing", I'm now seriously considering selling my Aurender.

Oh poor Aurender  Sad, I am not this far yet, but if things hold up, the Aurender will be switched off! There is one caveat with Roon, namely the lack of Qobuz integration. But alas, one can‘t have it all. I can still stream Qobuz via AIR and it’s own app. Maybe now that Qobuz is available in the States (or at least shortly), its integration could become fessible, who knows.
I keep you posted.
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#54
I now had Roon running for four hours without a glitch, smooth uninterrupted streaming from my MacBook Pro in the study to my Devialet 120 in the living room, controlled by my iPad. So far very good!
The sound quality achievable with Roon is amazing indeed. From all the setups I have tested up to now, I like Roon best, by far! Smooth, airy and well resolved sound. While with the USB-connected Aurender I had to attenuate the highs by -3 dB (at least) to tame my ATCs from soundinding too bright, I set the highs back to to 0 dB. I am truly amazed how good the Devialet sounds! If Roon stays stable, I am afraid it will go into retirement  Confused
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#55
I have tested Roon with my setup over the weekend. Streaming of audio files stored locally on my G-Tech HDD works wonderfully, no glitches, nothing. Really great and trouble-free. And the sound is very, very good! My Aurender N100H is disconnected and awaiting retirement :-))

However, streaming music from Tidal is not free of glitches. There are a few stutters, a few hisses, and a few drop-outs. Not very often, infrequent, but they happen. My question is: does the CI board get rid of these problems? Or is streaming via Tidal still troublesome?

Or, is there something obvious that could improve streaming from Tidal?

Thanks for your input!
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#56
Paul, are you streaming Tidal via Roon? The stutters and drops are more likely due to ISP performance (or perhaps your ISP modem is not the newest) especially if local streaming works fine, and the CI board will not change that. Make sure the Mac/PC is not running any other apps. My Aurender is retired too... I'll wait a month or so before deciding its fate, but I see little point in keeping it.
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(24-Sep-2018, 10:28)alaw Wrote: Paul, are you streaming Tidal via Roon? The stutters and drops are more likely due to ISP performance (or perhaps your ISP modem is not the newest) especially if local streaming works fine, and the CI board will not change that. Make sure the Mac/PC is not running any other apps. My Aurender is retired too... I'll wait a month or so before deciding its fate, but I see little point in keeping it.

Good idea, I haven’t thought about my ISP. Just recently, I bought their newest modem, at least from this point, all is new. However, if the provider isn’t up to task, then, well, you are perfectly right that no CI upgrade, however good the board is, will ameliorate things. I’ll look into it, thanks for the hint! I usually do not run any other software while running Roon. My MBP is armed to the teeth, though, I don‘t expect it‘ll run to its limits, although I have to check processor usage.

Yes, once I grasped the whole concept of Roon and it’s communication to the Devialet, I wonder how I could ever live without Roon  Rolleyes
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#58
Now that I have most issues solved and I finally decided for Roon (it does sound better than my Aurender, hate to admit it), I am keen on upgrading! Has anyone experience with upgrading a Devialet? How long does it take? I am almost prepared to drive to Paris and dropping the 120 at Devialet‘s posh Place Vendome just to expedite things ?.
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#59
(26-Sep-2018, 12:49)Sailor4W Wrote: Now that I have most issues solved and I finally decided for Roon (it does sound better than my Aurender, hate to admit it), I am keen on upgrading! Has anyone experience with upgrading a Devialet? How long does it take? I am almost prepared to drive to Paris and dropping the 120 at Devialet‘s posh Place Vendome just to expedite things ?.

There are many, many posts on upgrading, as the majority of owners on DC have been through one upgrade process or another. I think the average time is about two weeks, but if you live in France, it would probably be much quicker.

I wouldn’t be tempted to drive your amp to Paris, as the upgrades are performed elsewhere. They’d probably manage to lose your amp if you took this route.  [Image: confused.gif] [Image: smile.gif]
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#60
I kept silent lately as I was experimenting with Roon a bit. I tried to get my setup to work properly, that is, my MacBook Pro placed in my office, streaming via WiFi to my Devialet, and all controlled remotely by my iPad. The WiFi was built by an AirPort Extreme connected to my router that very recently had been upgraded to a 1 Gb/s unit, and two AirPort Extremes acting as satellites to stream the signal to my Devialet two floors downstairs. The Devialet was connected via ethernet to the final AirPort Extreme.
After an initial success, my Airport Extremes started to act up and I got all sorts of crackles and drop outs. Also, my iPad failed to connect to my MacBook. All sorts of problems, making it absolutely impossible to use Roon.
I of course searched the internet for WiFi routers yielding good results with Roon. One system mentioned to be great was Eero. I looked it up, liked it very much, but Eero is not certified for Europe. Other systems frequently mentioned were Ubiquiti and Orbi Netgear. So I went ahead and ordered an Orbi RBK53 (AC3000), consisting of one router and two satellites. Setting the system up was kind of OK with Orbi‘s app (not the best app, but it‘s all right). Set up the configurator at devialet‘s, transferred it to the the 120, and started streaming. So far for two hours absolutely flawlessly, no crackles, no dropouts, nothing, absolutely smooth. Naturally, I have to test the system much longer, but initial impressions are very favourable!


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