Devialet Chat

(24-Aug-2016, 09:26)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Confused.  I bought my Mutec direct from the factory, thus the new firmware was loaded. I have been using it exactly as you say, so I'm happy. I think this makes the Intona redundant from what I've read. Did you notice any improvement in SQ after a run in period?

It is very hard for me to say if I noticed any improvement in SQ after a run in period.  The problem I have is that I received the Mutec, set it up and used it one weekend, then during the following week I received the V1.10 firmware update.  It was used for a couple of weeks in a kind of 'background listening' mode.  Then when I finally had some time to listen carefully I was absolutely staggered by how good it was!  So it could be that it did indeed improve a touch when it had 'settled down', or it could just be the improvement from the firmware, I will never know!  It sounds so good now that I suspect it may be a bit of both.

(12-Aug-2016, 19:07)teddlesdee Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-Aug-2016, 04:50)Sharone Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-Aug-2016, 19:19)teddlesdee Wrote: [ -> ]Since I will now need another AES cable (twix Mutec & Devialet), are there any good suggestions without going overboard cost-wise?

Current one on the CD player is an Audioquest Coffee.
Do the same again, or is there better for the price?

Hi teddlesdee,

Since u already have an existing AES/EBU cable i.e. Audioquest Coffee, I suggest u hold on to the cable purchase and test it out using your existing one and see if u like the sound. There is no need to hurry.

One suggestion for performance cost competitive cable is DHLabs D-110. Even if you do not like it ultimately, it will not break your bank.

Guys,

MUTEC has arrived, albeit with a 'euro' plug (is this usual from MUTEC?), so will have to find a UK one. Borrowing one from another bit of kit for now...
Contorted my mind during a quick look at the manual - Jeez! Means not a lot to me!

First switch-on showed that the MUTEC was recognized by the Aurender (unexpected!) even with a message at top of Aurender screen telling me the MC-3 was attached! Cool!... but no sound...
Need to check AES input working via CD player first to be sure that the Dev is configured proper-like, as I have not used the CD player/Dev for Yonks! Been streaming mostly this year!

So, for those who have used one of these MUTEC's with Dev, I have the Aurender plugged into the Mutec via USB, and then from MUTEC to Dev via AES/EBU...

What do I need to configure on the MUTEC unit (if anything) and how, or does it auto recognize what's plugged in??

Any help would be appreciated. Can't wait to see/hear the effect of this unit...

Hi, 

Before making a decision to buy the MUTEC I am eagerly awaiting your assessment of it teddlesdee! I am planning to use the MUTEC via USB from a Lenovo PC  then from MUTEC to Dev via AES/EBU. All you MUTEC users is there anything I am missing? Is this a viable option?

Hi

That's exactly how I use it (Mac instead). You'll have to download the Windows driver from their website and then select internal and reclk with usb as the source -confused has a great description a couple of posts above. I own the original muted mc-3 and the usb version is even better. Combined with ver 10 firmware - the best sound I have heard so far . .

I installed the Mutec in my system on Monday. After being initially freaked out by the manual I found it fairly easy to operate by trial and error! I did get quite excited when I finally got some sound from it though. I have connected my Aurender, CD player and Sonos Connect so far with positive results. I really must read up on what "re clocking" actually does. The result however is a clearer sound with more definition and presence from all sources. Unfortunately it is not a beautiful item and those who purchased the Devialet for aesthetic reasons will be horrified. The definite improvement on sound quality is greater than I have achieved with any cable upgrade and must represent a high end bargain even with the lamentable exchange rate at the moment.

But hang on a minute, what part of this improvement is down to the use of the AES EBU input on the Devialet? I have connected the Mutec to this input, whereas the Aurender was previously connected to the USB input and the CD player to the coaxial digital. Frankly I'm not sure how to check this out.

I think there is still some investigating to be done.

(26-Aug-2016, 21:28)Harry. Wrote: [ -> ]I installed the Mutec in my system on Monday. After being initially freaked out by the manual I found it fairly easy to operate by trial and error! I did get quite excited when I finally got some sound from it though. I have connected my Aurender, CD player and Sonos Connect so far with positive results. I really must read up on what "re clocking" actually does. The result however is a clearer sound with more definition and presence from all sources. Unfortunately it is not a beautiful item and those who purchased the Devialet for aesthetic reasons will be horrified. The definite improvement on sound quality is greater than I have achieved with any cable upgrade and must represent a high end bargain even with the lamentable exchange rate at the moment.

But hang on a minute, what part of this improvement is down to the use of the AES EBU input on the Devialet? I have connected the Mutec to this input, whereas the Aurender was previously connected to the USB input and the CD player to the coaxial digital. Frankly I'm not sure how to check this out.

I think there is still some investigating to be done. 

The dire exchange rate does take the shine off it somewhat, doesn't it?
I think that the USB input on the Devialet is probably the worst, but the coax input is on a par with the AES/EBU, I think. You say that your CD player was connected to the coax and that you have heard an improvement in SQ, which you can put down to the Mutec. The manual says you can switch the LEDs off by pressing both front panel buttons at the same time, so that it blends in a bit better. In fact you have to hold down the menu button, then press the select button.

I'm having a slight problem. I'm feeding my Oppo into the Mutec's S/P-DIF BNC. The Oppo is set to output 192k LPCM. When I play a BluRay, the Mutec's Clock in is lit at 48.0 and obviously the Devialet is telling me that the input is 48 kHz. Why am I not getting 192kHz at the Mutec's input? The S/P-DIF BNC is capable of receiving 192/24. I've tried adjusting the settings but with no success.
Any suggestions gratefully accepted!

(27-Aug-2016, 15:08)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]I'm having a slight problem. I'm feeding my Oppo into the Mutec's S/P-DIF BNC. The Oppo is set to output 192k LPCM. When I play a BluRay, the Mutec's Clock in is lit at 48.0 and obviously the Devialet is telling me that the input is 48 kHz. Why am I not getting 192kHz at the Mutec's input? The S/P-DIF BNC is capable of receiving 192/24. I've tried adjusting the settings but with no success.
Any suggestions gratefully accepted!

This is due to a restriction Oppo is imposing on the S/P-DIF : see this :http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-gen...post169432

(27-Aug-2016, 16:30)SwissBear Wrote: [ -> ]

(27-Aug-2016, 15:08)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]I'm having a slight problem. I'm feeding my Oppo into the Mutec's S/P-DIF BNC. The Oppo is set to output 192k LPCM. When I play a BluRay, the Mutec's Clock in is lit at 48.0 and obviously the Devialet is telling me that the input is 48 kHz. Why am I not getting 192kHz at the Mutec's input? The S/P-DIF BNC is capable of receiving 192/24. I've tried adjusting the settings but with no success.
Any suggestions gratefully accepted!

This is due to a restriction Oppo is imposing on the S/P-DIF : see this :http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f8-gen...post169432

Oh! Well, that explains it! Thanks Bear.

(27-Aug-2016, 01:45)Axel Wrote: [ -> ]

(26-Aug-2016, 21:28)Harry. Wrote: [ -> ]I installed the Mutec in my system on Monday. After being initially freaked out by the manual I found it fairly easy to operate by trial and error! I did get quite excited when I finally got some sound from it though. I have connected my Aurender, CD player and Sonos Connect so far with positive results. I really must read up on what "re clocking" actually does. The result however is a clearer sound with more definition and presence from all sources. Unfortunately it is not a beautiful item and those who purchased the Devialet for aesthetic reasons will be horrified. The definite improvement on sound quality is greater than I have achieved with any cable upgrade and must represent a high end bargain even with the lamentable exchange rate at the moment.

But hang on a minute, what part of this improvement is down to the use of the AES EBU input on the Devialet? I have connected the Mutec to this input, whereas the Aurender was previously connected to the USB input and the CD player to the coaxial digital. Frankly I'm not sure how to check this out.

I think there is still some investigating to be done. 

The dire exchange rate does take the shine off it somewhat, doesn't it?
I think that the USB input on the Devialet is probably the worst, but the coax input is on a par with the AES/EBU, I think. You say that your CD player was connected to the coax and that you have heard an improvement in SQ, which you can put down to the Mutec. The manual says you can switch the LEDs off by pressing both front panel buttons at the same time, so that it blends in a bit better. In fact you have to hold down the menu button, then press the select button.

Like you I have some Van den Hul interconnects and am using "The Second" cable as an AES EBU connector from Mutec to Devialet. This works well in my view although I am not sure if it is a true 110 ohm lead. I have compared this to a coax connection between the two components, using Van den Hul "The First" which I imagine is about as close the the second as you could get! I definitely prefer the AES but of course this could be due to difference in cable or difference in output connectors. Not a definitive test then but I am leaning towards the AES input on the Devialet as being the best. 

Bye the way, I quite like the lights on the Mutec! I will check out whether there is any sound improvement when they are switched off however.

Hi folks
I have read the 16 pages. I already heard about the Mutec. So the usb version is the one even if you use the Aes ? 990€

I use a Moon mind to read the files in the Qnap Nas because I had issues with Air. I have to try Air 3 for Mac.
I have an optical bridge made with the TP link to avoid any perturbation. For a very small price.
I wonder if the Mutec provides a real gap in quality compared to this...