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(25-Apr-2016, 19:32)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ].....Perhaps you could lend a Mutec to find out once you've made your short-list or make use of the 30 day return option.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'd definitely compare Mutec on a Mac or PC as well, you never know, you might not even need the Aurender/Melco?
(25-Apr-2016, 21:16)Hifi_swlon Wrote: [ -> ]
(25-Apr-2016, 19:32)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ].....Perhaps you could lend a Mutec to find out once you've made your short-list or make use of the 30 day return option.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'd definitely compare Mutec on a Mac or PC as well, you never know, you might not even need the Aurender/Melco?

Yes, I agree.  I may well consider this when I'm I little further through my auditioning process.  It's too soon currently, is I'm totally unsure which direction all this is heading.  

Having said that, I'm becoming tempted to buy one anyway.  I currently have my baby Mutec, a W4S Remedy Reclocker.  If I sell this, it wouldn't be much more cash to fund the Mutec.
(25-Apr-2016, 19:32)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]@nfnc, besides the AES/EBU there are also S/PDIF outputs (coax, bnc, toslink) on the Mutec. I've sold the Intona last week. I tried it (after I got it back with the latest firmware) before the Mutec, but I couldn't hear a difference, positive or negative, in my system.

Thanks, Antoine.  Perhaps I should have clarified that, with the Mutec, there is no option to use a USB output. Therefore, as you have said in post #67 above, it would be hard to isolate whether the improvements are due to the Mutec itself or the use of the AES output. 

The other possibility is that, since AES is synchronous and USB is asynchronous, the Mutec clock is better than the Devialet's internal clock.

That you did not hear a difference with the Intona could mean, hypothetically, that the Mutec is doing as good a job as the Intona wrt galvanic isolation.  From that perspective, at least with the Mutec, the Intona would have no audible impact.

Guess what we will never know is whether, in a pure USB system (USB input/USB output), the Intona is as good as the Mutec (assuming that the Mutec was able to output via USB in the first place).
From Mutec's Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/mutecpro/

Quote:Besser hätte der Messeabschluss nicht sein können: Danke an die fliegenden Reporter von LowBeats, René Heller und Jürgen Schröder, für den netten Besuch! Das Video mit den aktuellen MUTEC-News kommt dann Ende der kommenden Woche. 

What a great way to wrap up ‪#‎highend2016‬: the LowBeats-Team with René Heller and Jürgen Schröder doing a video interview with Christian Peters about upcoming products including the MC-3+USB software update. Thanks LowBeats and everybody who showed up during the last four days!

So news at the end of this week or the end of next (not entirely clear to me, "the end of coming week", but this was posted on sunday morning).
Now these types of messages make me happy! Smile



http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac...post541229
Quote:Hi there,
We had hoped to have both the firmware update and the new 10 MHz clock ready for the show, but we unfortunately had to delay both for several reasons. With the firmware update, we're really just a couple of weeks away from the release and we'll make sure that you guys learn about it first. One reason for the delay is that we're still tweaking some parameters in the MC-3+USB firmware in order to provide a significant sonic improvement of the re-clocking performance, and we really don't want to rush that. The 10 MHz clock has been completely overhauled compared to earlier product information that has been circulating around here and we now have a no-holds-barred design that we believe is going to be a big step up from everything else out there. We actually had a pre-production prototype running at the exhibit in Munich that we showed to press and dealer contact. Chris Connaker and a couple of other CA users had the chance to see it, and we'll have some sneak preview shots in our exhibit wrap-up on our website soon. A part of why we had to postpone the release is that we want to make sure that the cosmetics of the unit are up to snuff with the sound quality and that we have our distribution and press channels in order for the release. As some of you know, we're still relatively new to the audiophile world and so the show was a good place for us to get all our ducks in a row to have a real impact when we release the 10 MHz clock. 

That being said, we are in the process of getting a couple of prototypes out to betatesters at the moment and we are currently looking at a release date around September of this year. 

Thank you all for your patience. It'll be worth it!

Julian
I am very interested in this device. Very interested in how it sounds when paired with a microRendu.

Question, will this automatically switch between PCM and DSD playback or do you have to make a change on the device?

From what I read I thought this capability was due in a forthcoming update.

Thanks.
To clarify concerns posted earlier that the Mutec requires special drivers even for Mac OS/Linux installations, with the consent of Mutec CEO, Christian Peters, here's his response:

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the MC-3+US requires only for Windows special drivers supplied on our website. When interconnecting it to MAC or Linux based computers, the MC-3+USB should work with them at once without the use of any driver. I cannot see a reason why your application should not work, presupposing the Melco keeps the Linux guidelines.

===

Hope that helps.
(12-May-2016, 04:53)baddog Wrote: [ -> ]I am very interested in this device. Very interested in how it sounds when paired with a microRendu.

Question, will this automatically switch between PCM and DSD playback or do you have to make a change on the device?

From what I read I thought this capability was due in a forthcoming update.

Thanks.

Yes, it's confirmed to be in the next firmware update, probably somewhere in June. It's in the video I talked about above, but it's in German:

http://youtu.be/_-2_a2C2zFw

I'll pair my mR (should arrive today) with the Mutec however I'm also waiting for my Paul Hynes SR7EHD-MR4 PSU (3-4weeks) that'll power it and probably my Mutec too (and my DSpeaker Anti-Mode DC 2.0). So will only start out with a very cheap LPSU on the mR.
(10-May-2016, 18:07)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]Now these types of messages make me happy! Smile



http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac...post541229
Quote:Hi there,
We had hoped to have both the firmware update and the new 10 MHz clock ready for the show, but we unfortunately had to delay both for several reasons. With the firmware update, we're really just a couple of weeks away from the release and we'll make sure that you guys learn about it first. One reason for the delay is that we're still tweaking some parameters in the MC-3+USB firmware in order to provide a significant sonic improvement of the re-clocking performance, and we really don't want to rush that. The 10 MHz clock has been completely overhauled compared to earlier product information that has been circulating around here and we now have a no-holds-barred design that we believe is going to be a big step up from everything else out there. We actually had a pre-production prototype running at the exhibit in Munich that we showed to press and dealer contact. Chris Connaker and a couple of other CA users had the chance to see it, and we'll have some sneak preview shots in our exhibit wrap-up on our website soon. A part of why we had to postpone the release is that we want to make sure that the cosmetics of the unit are up to snuff with the sound quality and that we have our distribution and press channels in order for the release. As some of you know, we're still relatively new to the audiophile world and so the show was a good place for us to get all our ducks in a row to have a real impact when we release the 10 MHz clock. 

That being said, we are in the process of getting a couple of prototypes out to betatesters at the moment and we are currently looking at a release date around September of this year. 

Thank you all for your patience. It'll be worth it!

Julian

So this is a firmware update for the current MC-3+USB, plus an upgraded / new model MC-3+USB planned for September release?  Am I reading this right?  So for patient types thinking of getting a MC-3+USB, it might just be worth a 4 to 5 months wait for the new model?
No, no new MC3+ USB, the new product will be an optional 10MHz rubidium master clock. Smile (which is a seperate device)
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