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They seem to have many different pages that require some skill or accident to find the information you want.

Thanks for the links.

(17-Jun-2015, 15:16)rwjr44 Wrote: [ -> ]They seem to have many different pages that require some skill or accident to find the information you want.

Thanks for the links.

I think anyone familiar with the Devialet website will feel most at home with this!

(17-Jun-2015, 22:51)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-Jun-2015, 15:16)rwjr44 Wrote: [ -> ]They seem to have many different pages that require some skill or accident to find the information you want.

Thanks for the links.

I think anyone familiar with the Devialet website will feel most at home with this!

Ahahahahah... You've made my day... Very funny! Did you get your nic because of Devialet?

(17-Jun-2015, 22:59)Yippedidou Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-Jun-2015, 22:51)Confused Wrote: [ -> ]

(17-Jun-2015, 15:16)rwjr44 Wrote: [ -> ]They seem to have many different pages that require some skill or accident to find the information you want.

Thanks for the links.

I think anyone familiar with the Devialet website will feel most at home with this!

Ahahahahah... You've made my day... Very funny! Did you get your nic because of Devialet?

That is why I believe Devialet and Aurender is a match made in heaven


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I've been looking for a DAC-less streamer for some time and ideally want support for Qobuz and iRadio as well as streaming from a NAS and/or USB HDD all controlled from a single control point app on iPad and iPod/iPhone - obviously with excellent SQ.  The Auralic Aries is the only one that meets all these criteria but is very 'plasticky' and many have reported that SQ is really no better than a Mac. (Actually the NAD M50 also does all these things but has an integrated optical drive which I definitely don't want.)

Anyway, my local dealer has recently taken up an Aurender franchise and several people on here have posts positive reports so I picked up an N100 last week. The person who borrowed it before me had posted some extremely positive reports about SQ on the Naim forum but had had issues with connecting to his NAS and had also experienced gaps in playback when streaming DSD files so I decided to try the simple approach and used a USB HDD. I should add that me dealer lent me a Chord Sarum TA USB cable.

It was immediately apparent that the SQ of the Aurender was excellent. It has a very smooth, detailed sound with no digital glare and no graininess - much better than iTunes/Mac/AIR or my Naim NDX. I really enjoyed listening to it though, as I posted elsewhere, perhaps the sound is a bit too smooth (though not as bland as some Linn systems that I've heard).  I tried the TIDAL integration and it worked perfectly - the SQ was pretty good too though maybe a bit brighter than Mac/Qobuz.  I still need to explore Tidal's classical catalogue - last time I looked it was nowhere near as good as Qobuz's.  I had no dropouts when using Tidal which is much better than when I last tried in October.

I did have some technical issues - multiple 1-2 second gaps in playback when using one of the two USB ports (maybe be a fault with the port) and playback stopped a couple of times for no apparent reason.  Perhaps the N100H with internal 2TB HDD would be a better choice?

Anyway, from my point of view these are the pros and cons of the N100:

Pros:
- Sound quality is excellent (with Chord Sarum TA USB) it's the best digital source that I have heard in my system.
- smallish footprint
- excellent build quality
- TIDAL integration works well and sounds good
- quiet - LPS doesnt buzz
- Conductor app seems robust but I was only using folder view so didn't try all the features

Cons:
- is it technically robust? An N100H or X100L with integrated HDD is probably less hassle? 
- no iPod/iPhone app
- no Qobuz integration
- USB output only (though I've been surprised by SQ through USB so perhaps this isn't really a Con)
- no iRadio
- UK price is nearly £1000 more than US and I don't like being ripped off
[EDIT: another con - the app doesn't maintain context so if you, for example, do a search on Tidal, leave the app to go to the Devialet app to change volume and then go back into the Aurender app the search results are gone and the source will have switched to Aurender rather than stayed in Tidal. This is very annoying.]

So, in conclusion, I really like it but it's not perfect - but then again what is ?  Having heard what's possible with the N100 I will definitely change my source.  I need to think hard about whether to go for a N100H or X100L instead or whether to try a Melco which has had very positive reviews on here.

An interesting summary Phil.  Plus, you've hit on the one point that was really bothering me, why are they so expensive in the UK?  I can understand different pricing in different regions, variations in tax, distribution costs etc., but the delta on the Aurender range is very high.  Like you, I simply hate the feeling that I've been ever so slightly ripped off!

(18-Jun-2015, 20:11)PhilP Wrote: [ -> ]I've been looking for a DAC-less streamer for some time and ideally want support for Qobuz and iRadio as well as streaming from a NAS and/or USB HDD all controlled from a single control point app on iPad and iPod/iPhone - obviously with excellent SQ.  The Auralic Aries is the only one that meets all these criteria but is very 'plasticky' and many have reported that SQ is really no better than a Mac. (Actually the NAD M50 also does all these things but has an integrated optical drive which I definitely don't want.)

Anyway, my local dealer has recently taken up an Aurender franchise and several people on here have posts positive reports so I picked up an N100 last week. The person who borrowed it before me had posted some extremely positive reports about SQ on the Naim forum but had had issues with connecting to his NAS and had also experienced gaps in playback when streaming DSD files so I decided to try the simple approach and used a USB HDD. I should add that me dealer lent me a Chord Sarum TA USB cable.

It was immediately apparent that the SQ of the Aurender was excellent. It has a very smooth, detailed sound with no digital glare and no graininess - much better than iTunes/Mac/AIR or my Naim NDX. I really enjoyed listening to it though, as I posted elsewhere, perhaps the sound is a bit too smooth (though not as bland as some Linn systems that I've heard).  I tried the TIDAL integration and it worked perfectly - the SQ was pretty good too though maybe a bit brighter than Mac/Qobuz.  I still need to explore Tidal's classical catalogue - last time I looked it was nowhere near as good as Qobuz's.  I had no dropouts when using Tidal which is much better than when I last tried in October.

I did have some technical issues - multiple 1-2 second gaps in playback when using one of the two USB ports (maybe be a fault with the port) and playback stopped a couple of times for no apparent reason.  Perhaps the N100H with internal 2TB HDD would be a better choice?

Anyway, from my point of view these are the pros and cons of the N100:

Pros:
- Sound quality is excellent (with Chord Sarum TA USB) it's the best digital source that I have heard.
- smallish footprint
- excellent build quality
- TIDAL integration works well and sounds good
- quiet - LPS doesnt buzz
- Conductor app seems robust but I was only using folder view so didn't try all the features

Cons:
- is it technically robust? An N100H or X100L with integrated HDD is probably less hassle? 
- no iPod/iPhone app
- no Qobuz integration
- USB output only (though I've been surprised by SQ through USB so perhaps this isn't really a Con)
- no iRadio
- UK price is nearly £1000 more than US and I don't like being ripped off

So, in conclusion, I really like it but it's not perfect - but then again what is ?  Having heard what's possible with the N100 I will definitely change my source.  I need to think hard about whether to go for a N100H or X100L instead or whether to try a Melco which has had very positive reviews on here.

Excellent summary. FWIW, i vouch for the X100 as it is a one solution for storage and playback and I have never faced the issue of 1-2 sec gap you faced with the N100

There is a setting in the Conductor app for setting a delay when changing resolutions.. It's there so that a Dac that needs it can lock on and or to eliminate any pops or noise issues when switching resolutions. This can be adjusted from zero seconds to five seconds.. IIRC the default is 3 seconds.

If the Aurender is that much more $$ why not just buy one from a US dealer and have it shipped to the UK??

And I bought the N100H just because for $200.00 more why not? I can have my music on the unit and when and if I fill up the 2tb of space I can alway stream from my Nas if need be, plus it takes the wifi and ethernet out of the equation as far as SQ goes..

(18-Jun-2015, 23:20)amabrok Wrote: [ -> ]

(18-Jun-2015, 20:11)PhilP Wrote: [ -> ]I've been looking for a DAC-less streamer for some time and ideally want support for Qobuz and iRadio as well as streaming from a NAS and/or USB HDD all controlled from a single control point app on iPad and iPod/iPhone - obviously with excellent SQ.  The Auralic Aries is the only one that meets all these criteria but is very 'plasticky' and many have reported that SQ is really no better than a Mac. (Actually the NAD M50 also does all these things but has an integrated optical drive which I definitely don't want.)

Anyway, my local dealer has recently taken up an Aurender franchise and several people on here have posts positive reports so I picked up an N100 last week. The person who borrowed it before me had posted some extremely positive reports about SQ on the Naim forum but had had issues with connecting to his NAS and had also experienced gaps in playback when streaming DSD files so I decided to try the simple approach and used a USB HDD. I should add that me dealer lent me a Chord Sarum TA USB cable.

It was immediately apparent that the SQ of the Aurender was excellent. It has a very smooth, detailed sound with no digital glare and no graininess - much better than iTunes/Mac/AIR or my Naim NDX. I really enjoyed listening to it though, as I posted elsewhere, perhaps the sound is a bit too smooth (though not as bland as some Linn systems that I've heard).  I tried the TIDAL integration and it worked perfectly - the SQ was pretty good too though maybe a bit brighter than Mac/Qobuz.  I still need to explore Tidal's classical catalogue - last time I looked it was nowhere near as good as Qobuz's.  I had no dropouts when using Tidal which is much better than when I last tried in October.

I did have some technical issues - multiple 1-2 second gaps in playback when using one of the two USB ports (maybe be a fault with the port) and playback stopped a couple of times for no apparent reason.  Perhaps the N100H with internal 2TB HDD would be a better choice?

Anyway, from my point of view these are the pros and cons of the N100:

Pros:
- Sound quality is excellent (with Chord Sarum TA USB) it's the best digital source that I have heard.
- smallish footprint
- excellent build quality
- TIDAL integration works well and sounds good
- quiet - LPS doesnt buzz
- Conductor app seems robust but I was only using folder view so didn't try all the features

Cons:
- is it technically robust? An N100H or X100L with integrated HDD is probably less hassle? 
- no iPod/iPhone app
- no Qobuz integration
- USB output only (though I've been surprised by SQ through USB so perhaps this isn't really a Con)
- no iRadio
- UK price is nearly £1000 more than US and I don't like being ripped off

So, in conclusion, I really like it but it's not perfect - but then again what is ?  Having heard what's possible with the N100 I will definitely change my source.  I need to think hard about whether to go for a N100H or X100L instead or whether to try a Melco which has had very positive reviews on here.

Excellent summary. FWIW, i vouch for the X100 as it is a one solution for storage and playback and I have never faced the issue of 1-2 sec gap you faced with the N100

No gaps here too...

Isn't the 1-2 second gaps caused by the option to pause playback when switching to a different resolution (from 16/44 to 24/96 for example)?