(04-Apr-2016, 13:16)Jnan_devi Wrote: [ -> ] (04-Apr-2016, 12:55)thumb5 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-Apr-2016, 12:08)Jnan_devi Wrote: [ -> ]Roon is desperate to win Devialet crowd too. Why? Our Le120,200,400 ... Has on board computer. Now if only Devialet sends replacement for (with some cost) computer board with good processor RAM memory- Roon can be directly loaded onto Devialet system. Long shot ? Yes but it's doable. Remove Arm base core with Intel base core optimized for Devialet.
If only Devialet can send a sample system for testing.
Is there an ARM-based processor in the Expert series? I thought all the CPUs were AD SHARC... (Phantom is different, I believe, based on an i.MX 6.) Anyway, surely they are already "optimised for Devialet" by virtue of the fact that Devialet designed them into the system in the first place. Optimised for Roon, though, is obviously a different matter - perhaps that's what you meant?
Its ARM processor. It does not matter optimized for Roon or Devialet but have minimum requrement. if it suits Roon thats fine. but i would drop this topic here as i m too shy having discussion on this topic as this is way too long shot ! 
There is no ARM processor in the Expert line, just the Phantom.
(04-Apr-2016, 18:03)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ] (04-Apr-2016, 12:08)Jnan_devi Wrote: [ -> ]Roon is desperate to win Devialet crowd too. Why? Our Le120,200,400 ... Has on board computer. Now if only Devialet sends replacement for (with some cost) computer board with good processor RAM memory- Roon can be directly loaded onto Devialet system. Long shot ? Yes but it's doable. Remove Arm base core with Intel base core optimized for Devialet.
If only Devialet can send a sample system for testing.
Doable, based on what? You do realize the DUET interface card is only about 8x11,5 cm's big? Picture here: http://devialetchat.com/showthread.php?t...3#pid32373
Maybe not an intel one….but as an example the upcoming microRendu is specified as 3.5"x2.2"x.7", which is about 9x5.5cm, and incorporates a case holding an ethernet socket, USB socket, a power socket, and an SD card thingy, and incorporates a chip capable of running software for multiple network endpoints. So it must be
technically possible, should Devialet wish to offer a better or upgraded streaming card.
(04-Apr-2016, 12:08)Jnan_devi Wrote: [ -> ]Roon is desperate to win Devialet crowd too. Why? Our Le120,200,400 ... Has on board computer. Now if only Devialet sends replacement for (with some cost) computer board with good processor RAM memory- Roon can be directly loaded onto Devialet system. Long shot ? Yes but it's doable. Remove Arm base core with Intel base core optimized for Devialet.
If only Devialet can send a sample system for testing.
Roon isn't desperate to win Devialet crowds.
Devialet needs to fix their Air implementation and all applications including Roon will work well with the Devialet. It would be nice if Devialet sent a unit to Roon once they fix Air so Roon can make sure their ASIO, WASAPI implementation works well with Devialet's drivers. It doesn't currently.
(04-Apr-2016, 18:06)Antoine Wrote: [ -> ]Phantom FPGA compared to Expert's: http://devialetchat.com/showthread.php?t...1#pid34191
Thanks for the correction (again!) Antoine: Altera Cyclone V rather than i.MX 6 in the Phantom. (I should have remembered that - I've been developing software for a Cyclone V myself for the last year or so!)
I stand corrected looking at the platform size Antoine. Hence i quickly wrote to withdraw from the dicussion.
However my ego tells me dont give up yet and be ready to take on some more bashing from critics
(one more controversial topic?
) This is quite old PCB, even if it means 2-3 year . New age FPGA or actual data server processor itself (Multi core + FPGA on same silicon) + New age RAM and New age NAND based SSD can be integrated into this tiny platform. Yes - Doable. Test platform can be done quickly and cheaply and takes about a month or so. But no idea on finances on Devialet. But if its Data server processor instead of FPGA (same or smaller Foot print), they might be covered future (at least 5 years) proof. Again - a very long long shot but doable.
Must add 8cm x 11.5cm - is pretty decent job by board designer. Antoine thanks for sharing the platform picture.
I think 8x11cm is pretty generous these days thinking about it.
Not comparing like for like I know, but ChromecastAudio, Raspberry Pi, Cubox, audioquest dragonfly, iPhone, just some examples of what can be packed into tiny footprints these days. And these things invariably include batteries, cases, connector sockets, screens, etc. Fitting a decent new streamer board that can run Linux or whatever into L'Experts should be a cinch for a company that allegedly shrunk their 'magic wire' circuits down to a 1cm chip.
Right, just an example of iPhone itself with all on board. However is it all about volume that stops companies approaching customized/optimised solutions?. More volume more $$ savings on optimisation/customisation?.
Anyways other way out is, if you see Altera pkj is much smaller than AD DSP on the picture of Duat platform. In my opinion FPGA 'silicon' is much larger than AD DSP 'Silicon'. However Altera has done good job on Pkj design compared to AD DSP . Like wise more of the packaged chips can be optimized with new age smart pkj which are having small Form Factor. Anyways, more Data Server Chips are future for these platform which has powerful processor for normal grind and FPGA section for programmability - all on the same Silicon die.
Of course I agree with you guys, a lot could be possible these days, at least an upgrade of the current components. It's more that I personally am always a bit more careful in expressing that things should be "easy", "doable" or "should not be a problem at all". Of course I shouldn't feel responsible at all but it could give false hope to others.
Roon on Mac and AIR ETH was working (drops or no drops), but working. But RoonServer sitting on my MacBook-Air, Roon control on my iPad; I can see Roon streaming on Devialet Air zone. But no sound. I can also see Devialet automatically switching to ETH, from my USB playing input. Anyone facing similar issue?