Either one RoonServer or Core installed, you can still use your iPad to control your Roon. You can have multiple Controls.
(31-May-2016, 12:57)tategoi Wrote: [ -> ]OK, once I have my iMac, I should install both Roon and RoonServer on the machine.
Yes!
(31-May-2016, 12:57)tategoi Wrote: [ -> ]With Roon, my iMac is the Control. With RoonServer, the iPad is the Control. I'll play around with both and see which I like better.
Not quite. Roon's terminology is quite confusing, but lots of us have posted different setup ideas too, so that hasn't helped you
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If you install Roon and RoonServer on your iMac:
-RoonServer always runs and is the Core.
When you run Roon you can run it in 'Remote' or 'Control' mode connecting to the Core on the same machine. The generic install of Roon basically contains Core, Control, and Output in one, but you dont have to use them all. When you run it, it will recognise that a Core (RoonServer) is already running and suggest to run in 'remote' mode. This gives you the best of both worlds - you can control Roon from that machine when you like, but you can quit it without it affecting anything else like iPad access.
There is a specific Roon Remote (for iOS and Android) which runs on the iPad.
It all becomes very clear when you get it setup - its the most user friendly system in the world other than trying to explain it before install!
FYI Roons goal is to make the experience the same on all platforms (except phones) so the iOS install gives you about 99.9% the same control as the desktop version. So its not like you need a specific version to setup - although for some things (cut and paste etc), the computer version can be easier. I can't remember the last time I used anything other than the iPad.
(apologies for the huge amount of typos first time round which probably added even more confusion)
Guys, got the 3.2 GHz iMac yesterday and started Roon and Tidal trial. When I installed the Roon, I don't remember seeing a message asking if I want the iMac to run Roon or RoonServer, but I guess I am now on Roon as I can control Roon on my iMac?
I have almost zero digital files before yesterday. And now I have hundreds of albums at my disposal. I am kind of overwhelmed by the Roon and Tidal combination. Love at first sight hehe.
Bad start. AIR crashed 10 minutes into playing as I was starting to connect Roon are ore on my iPhone 6s to the iMac. I'm not sure if it's just purely coincident. Now my iMac refused to Restart or Shut Down because the Google Chrome refused to quit. What a bummer
The bummer is just one-off, since then its been flawless, and I am enjoying the tour de Roon for the last 2 hours. However, initial observation was music streamed from Tidal (lossless FLAC 44.1/16) sounded harsh compared to the same track (AIFF 44.1/16) resided in my iMac hard disk. Then I did a quick comparison and pop in a redbook CD containing the same track into the transport, I still much prefer the CD sound.
I have recently installed Roon on a headless Intel NUC, it links to my Aries and then into my D200 via USB. All my music is on a Synology NAS. It works perfectly, everything is connected by Ethernet but having read some of the posts here am I right in thinking that I can bypass the Aries and stream directly to the D200?
If this is the case could somebody possibly give some tips to get it going. When I check audio zones I can see the Aries which I use, but in the box above it mentions core output "wasapi" but I can't see any mention of Devialet. What am I missing here. Many thanks.
(08-Jun-2016, 19:08)misterpete Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently installed Roon on a headless Intel NUC, it links to my Aries and then into my D200 via USB. All my music is on a Synology NAS. It works perfectly, everything is connected by Ethernet but having read some of the posts here am I right in thinking that I can bypass the Aries and stream directly to the D200?
If this is the case could somebody possibly give some tips to get it going. When I check audio zones I can see the Aries which I use, but in the box above it mentions core output "wasapi" but I can't see any mention of Devialet. What am I missing here. Many thanks.
Hello Misterpete.
In theory, yes you could, but you would have to use either a USB cable from your NUC to the D200, or the dreaded Devialet AIR.
For the pros and cons of either one, have a look at the respective threads in this forum. Many folk, including myself, could never get AIR to be reliable, and most folk feel that USB directly from a PC into the Dev lacks some SQ.
Hope that helps a little
(08-Jun-2016, 19:19)Zappydev Wrote: [ -> ] (08-Jun-2016, 19:08)misterpete Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently installed Roon on a headless Intel NUC, it links to my Aries and then into my D200 via USB. All my music is on a Synology NAS. It works perfectly, everything is connected by Ethernet but having read some of the posts here am I right in thinking that I can bypass the Aries and stream directly to the D200?
If this is the case could somebody possibly give some tips to get it going. When I check audio zones I can see the Aries which I use, but in the box above it mentions core output "wasapi" but I can't see any mention of Devialet. What am I missing here. Many thanks.
Hello Misterpete.
In theory, yes you could, but you would have to use either a USB cable from your NUC to the D200, or the dreaded Devialet AIR.
For the pros and cons of either one, have a look at the respective threads in this forum. Many folk, including myself, could never get AIR to be reliable, and most folk feel that USB directly from a PC into the Dev lacks some SQ.
Hope that helps a little
Using "the dreaded" AIR (when it worked) sounded pretty damn good. But for many, the term "dreaded" is well deserved. It was never stable for me. But for some it is, so it may be worth giving it a shot. You run AIR on your Intel NUC and enable ethernet on your Devialet. I'd strongly recommend ethernet over wifi.
I gave up on AIR and bought a Sonore uRendu... basically Roon -> ethernet -> uRendu -> USB -> Devialet. Works wonderfully well for me and sounds amazing - even better than AIR when it worked.
(08-Jun-2016, 19:19)Zappydev Wrote: [ -> ] (08-Jun-2016, 19:08)misterpete Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently installed Roon on a headless Intel NUC, it links to my Aries and then into my D200 via USB. All my music is on a Synology NAS. It works perfectly, everything is connected by Ethernet but having read some of the posts here am I right in thinking that I can bypass the Aries and stream directly to the D200?
If this is the case could somebody possibly give some tips to get it going. When I check audio zones I can see the Aries which I use, but in the box above it mentions core output "wasapi" but I can't see any mention of Devialet. What am I missing here. Many thanks.
Hello Misterpete.
In theory, yes you could, but you would have to use either a USB cable from your NUC to the D200, or the dreaded Devialet AIR.
For the pros and cons of either one, have a look at the respective threads in this forum. Many folk, including myself, could never get AIR to be reliable, and most folk feel that USB directly from a PC into the Dev lacks some SQ.
Hope that helps a little
Ah yes, thanks for that. I thought perhaps I could use the Ethernet option. I have set up Air on the NUC and it initially sees the Ethernet but it is always set to streaming disabled. If somehow I did manage to get Air working what would show up in the Roon audio zone?
(08-Jun-2016, 19:45)misterpete Wrote: [ -> ] (08-Jun-2016, 19:19)Zappydev Wrote: [ -> ] (08-Jun-2016, 19:08)misterpete Wrote: [ -> ]I have recently installed Roon on a headless Intel NUC, it links to my Aries and then into my D200 via USB. All my music is on a Synology NAS. It works perfectly, everything is connected by Ethernet but having read some of the posts here am I right in thinking that I can bypass the Aries and stream directly to the D200?
If this is the case could somebody possibly give some tips to get it going. When I check audio zones I can see the Aries which I use, but in the box above it mentions core output "wasapi" but I can't see any mention of Devialet. What am I missing here. Many thanks.
Hello Misterpete.
In theory, yes you could, but you would have to use either a USB cable from your NUC to the D200, or the dreaded Devialet AIR.
For the pros and cons of either one, have a look at the respective threads in this forum. Many folk, including myself, could never get AIR to be reliable, and most folk feel that USB directly from a PC into the Dev lacks some SQ.
Hope that helps a little
Ah yes, thanks for that. I thought perhaps I could use the Ethernet option. I have set up Air on the NUC and it initially sees the Ethernet but it is always set to streaming disabled. If somehow I did manage to get Air working what would show up in the Roon audio zone?
When I was using it with my NUC, I believe that I had the WASAPI driver installed, and Roon would output to that. The AIR acts as a virtual sound card, so sends to the Dev whatever sounds are being output by the NUC, in my case via the WASAPI.
When it works, it sounds great, but I kept getting crashes and blue screens, which regularly trashed my Roon database. You may be more lucky. If you have a Mac lying around, you could set that up as a RoonBridge zone, and then use the new AIR3 beta, which works well. But so far, only for Mac.